• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    It’s fine, as long as the temperature stays stable and no further damage is done. We’re not going to revive their flesh. Instead we’re going to chop them off in large chunks. Suspend them in a kind of agar. Then laser off 2nanometer at a time. Scan the surface with 1nm resolution PiFM or better method. That’s going to yield many terabytes of image data that you can turms into a neural map of the entire nervous system. Even mapping this data to today’s LLM would get something roughly able to speak like the corpse. The better this data processing gets the more real the resurrected sentiences will be.

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      7 months ago

      That’s assuming the freezing process hasn’t irreparably damaged the brain structure, which I don’t think anybody can confidently assert at the moment.

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      7 months ago

      This sounds pretty amazing. Do you have any sources (or process names that I can search)? I would love to read more into the LLM part of your statement. Seriously sounds like scifi, and I’m loving it.

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        7 months ago

        Visible human project for the 1993 first experiment 2013 slice culture modeling of central nervous system 2019 visible human body slice segmentation method 2022 scalable mapping of myelin and neuron density inthe human brain with micrometer resolution

        In fiction We are legion, we are Bob Fun book but novice writer

        Probably covered by futurist youtuber isaac arthur, probably part of the mind upload episode

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          7 months ago

          I’m familiar with some of those, but they don’t digitally map thought and then read that map. At least not the last time I looked into them… Do they now?

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            7 months ago

            Here is something close to tge cutting edge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSG3_JvnCkU

            What they are creating is a connectome. A list of all neurons and their connection.

            They are down to 34nm slices.

            I said 2nm because the smallest features are 5nm inside the gap between neurons called synapses.

            Presumably, there are no features enconding information smaller than that in the brain.

            But just the connectome might be enough to replicate a consciousness.

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              7 months ago

              Very interesting! Maybe once we understand the structure, we can recreate what’s behind the structure. Not sure if that’s a good thing, but it certainly is intriguing.

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                7 months ago

                I don’t think we need to understand tge structure. Just create a fidel digital copy and run it according to electrochemical rules we have from physics and I believe a largely intact consciousness will emerge.

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                  7 months ago

                  But wouldn’t understanding the structure assist is rebuilding a mechanical version and, thus, recreating the consciousness into an artificial mechanism (such as a Terminator-esque android)?

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                    7 months ago

                    It depends what you mean by “understand”. If we have an intact digital connectome and we execute its circuitry in the right kind of simulator. A consciousness would ptobably emerge out of it. But I wouldn’t call this “understanding”. Trillion neurons and other structures are so complex and interwined, it strains the very idea of “understanding” how it works.

                    At least not without major aids to break it down into smaller easier to understand chunks.