Punk is, to a degree, about deconstruction of a system. If ‘the system’ is built upon an appearance of aggression - angry ten foot tall brodozers and music about shooting anyone who looks at you funny - then the most punk thing to do is to dress up nice and talk about friendship, right? After all, “The Man” wants me to be an avatar of anger so, fuck him, let’s sing about flowers and shit.

But, they’re certainly not “punk rock”, that’s for sure.

Randos saying punk bands aren’t punk enough. A tale as old as time.

It sounds like emo/post-hardcore, which could be described as punk but it’s not what most people think of as punk.

What did you hear? I just played a few tracks and it sounds like screamo to me.

I find “Punk” tends to be code for “our music sucks, but people will pretend to like it anyway, because counter culture or something”