Also, if you’re just a pseud who interprets most forms of serious anti-imperialism as “nationalism” then you deserve being stranded on Hexbear. You are in the best company for coping with the new reality in a declining imperium. It’s been funny watching people who are inches away from “neutrality” over Ukraine because they think the US is kinder to gay people than Russia absorb anti-imperialism by osmosis and catch up, despte being infatuated with dozens of theorists who spent their life muddying the waters around the question of whether imperial core workers should support anti-imperialism. Because only two or three of them bothered to deal with Debord and Baudrillard and Adorno and Deleuze and all of that fucking paper maché fodder
Pretty much every other ML or Maoist forum I ever participated in either got banned or a bunch of weirdos who were really more just nationalists for countries that are/were socialist showed up and started posting all the time about how Furries should be sent to a gulag and other weird shit.
Could have worded that better but I was arguing they were more into the nationalism part than the socialism part. Regardless the weird fixation in shit like furries is more what I take issue with.
Pure nationalism is also plenty concerning but the rejection of nationalism by leftists who claim to support Palestine is so fucking funny and sad to me
let me form a plurinational socialist state, will come back and quiz you on support for them, be right back i need to secure arms and personnel just one seconnnnnd
Do you think Ukraine and/or furries belong on the pride flag or that they are attempting to hijack the achievements of gay rights activists? Bondage fetishists do this too
I’m not LGBTQ myself so I’d rather not opine on whether their community thinks furries and bdsm folk should be included in their community at all but I’d say most queer people I know wouldn’t give a fuck if and when they show up at a pride parade.
Okay, I guess it just sounded like you were talking about something other than the usual crap for a second. So you’re still within a subset of a subset of western internet users then. Just kind of annoyed since I’m in like, group chats for the MST in Brazil and all sorts of things and you’re lumping those people in with people who are basically a fandom for various political content creators (harmless but annoying) and other more distressing entities which range from book clubs to like organized crime (Black Hammer)
I guess that fits my general idea of the kind of person who ends up here. Burned out on Reddit and various other chatrooms which have a single redeeming quality in hating some facets of imperialism, even if they don’t understand it.
This site is really a congregation of smug people who trip over psyops until they get burned out and start advising people on the lay of the land when they never left their own backyard
Well I don’t speak Portuguese so idk what goes on in Brazilian left online spaces, this is all anglo world shit I’m talking about. English speaking internet political spaces just tend to bring out the weirdest assholes in whatever demo they’re catering to. Idk why exactly but this space seems a bit resilient to it but then again we do get the occasional BMF types.
Online shit is pointless anyway, this is just a place for shit posting and getting news, no valuable organizing happens here, or Reddit, or Twitter.
Soon with the quality of translation software, those language barriers will matter less. Mainstream socials and FOSS clones are really good about it now.
I’m already on a Mastodon fork translating Chinese posts I pipe in via RSS from Baidu comments and hella other places not to dab on you guys but I am living in 2027
Can you just tell me what you’re talking about so I can go look it up at least and figure out what is even going on in there
This was years ago and mostly on Reddit subs I’m pretty sure are all banned now so I don’t really have anything for you
Edit: Pretty sure all these people moved to Twitter now, just look for anyone with a Mao avatar but who also uses the word “d*generate” unironically.
Also, if you’re just a pseud who interprets most forms of serious anti-imperialism as “nationalism” then you deserve being stranded on Hexbear. You are in the best company for coping with the new reality in a declining imperium. It’s been funny watching people who are inches away from “neutrality” over Ukraine because they think the US is kinder to gay people than Russia absorb anti-imperialism by osmosis and catch up, despte being infatuated with dozens of theorists who spent their life muddying the waters around the question of whether imperial core workers should support anti-imperialism. Because only two or three of them bothered to deal with Debord and Baudrillard and Adorno and Deleuze and all of that fucking paper maché fodder
Lol I don’t really get how you’re getting all this from a comment about how some English speaking ML spaces attract weirdos who hate furries.
that would be your statement here:
Could have worded that better but I was arguing they were more into the nationalism part than the socialism part. Regardless the weird fixation in shit like furries is more what I take issue with.
Pure nationalism is also plenty concerning but the rejection of nationalism by leftists who claim to support Palestine is so fucking funny and sad to me
I’m pro-anti-colonial nationalism. But if you’re a socialist you should also be an internationalist.
let me form a plurinational socialist state, will come back and quiz you on support for them, be right back i need to secure arms and personnel just one seconnnnnd
furries have a tendency to try to act like some kind of repressed minority they’re gonna get themselves added to the pride flag, just like Ukraine
Hey the exact sort of weird shit I was talking about!
Do you think Ukraine and/or furries belong on the pride flag or that they are attempting to hijack the achievements of gay rights activists? Bondage fetishists do this too
Ukraine def doesn’t.
I’m not LGBTQ myself so I’d rather not opine on whether their community thinks furries and bdsm folk should be included in their community at all but I’d say most queer people I know wouldn’t give a fuck if and when they show up at a pride parade.
see you’re already bracing for their success 😁
Okay, I guess it just sounded like you were talking about something other than the usual crap for a second. So you’re still within a subset of a subset of western internet users then. Just kind of annoyed since I’m in like, group chats for the MST in Brazil and all sorts of things and you’re lumping those people in with people who are basically a fandom for various political content creators (harmless but annoying) and other more distressing entities which range from book clubs to like organized crime (Black Hammer)
I guess that fits my general idea of the kind of person who ends up here. Burned out on Reddit and various other chatrooms which have a single redeeming quality in hating some facets of imperialism, even if they don’t understand it.
This site is really a congregation of smug people who trip over psyops until they get burned out and start advising people on the lay of the land when they never left their own backyard
Well I don’t speak Portuguese so idk what goes on in Brazilian left online spaces, this is all anglo world shit I’m talking about. English speaking internet political spaces just tend to bring out the weirdest assholes in whatever demo they’re catering to. Idk why exactly but this space seems a bit resilient to it but then again we do get the occasional BMF types.
Online shit is pointless anyway, this is just a place for shit posting and getting news, no valuable organizing happens here, or Reddit, or Twitter.
Soon with the quality of translation software, those language barriers will matter less. Mainstream socials and FOSS clones are really good about it now.
That maybe interesting, we’ll see what happens
I’m already on a Mastodon fork translating Chinese posts I pipe in via RSS from Baidu comments and hella other places not to dab on you guys but I am living in 2027
Impressive