• distantsounds@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I’m with you in that trump is bad, and I will do what is needed when it comes time to vote to make sure he is not president again. BUT all that you listed is still not worse than the genocide of over 35,000 people. All Biden needs to do is stop spending our tax dollars in support of this ethnic cleansing

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      2 months ago

      You’re under the impression that our healthcare system alone doesn’t kill 35,000 a year? I’m sure it’s a lot higher than that

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        2 months ago

        What?! I know the US healthcare system is totally fucked and no potential president running this year is going to fix it, but when did the healthcare system start using 2,000 pound bombs and begin ethnically cleansing?

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          2 months ago

          Does it matter if it’s bombs or denying claims to dying cancer patients (among 100 other injustices)? I’d argue the bombs are more honest at least.

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            2 months ago

            The difference is that the complicated mess of a healthcare system can’t be fixed unilaterally by bypassing congress like supplying arms to Israel.

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              2 months ago

              I think that drawing back support for Israel is far more complicated than you folks realize.

              But maybe you all have political science degrees and just don’t feel like explaining your reasoning? I just know enough to know that is a sticky situation and isn’t just as easy as canceling a Netflix subscription or something like many seem to think it is

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                2 months ago

                If Ronald fucking Reagan was able to figure out how to withhold aid to Israel to get them to withdraw from Beirut and Lebanon, I’m sure Biden can. Reagan also allowed 21 UN resolutions against Israel. How utterly embarrassing it must be to be worse than Reagan on anything. I guess all they have to do is say “it’s a complicated issue” ad nauseam until you actually believe nothing can be done about actively arming a genocide.

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                  2 months ago

                  There’s a difference in saying “it probably is more complicated than you realize” and “just shut up and accept genocide” but thanks for turning the conversation into this

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                    2 months ago

                    Sorry I’m not going to “but he’s just a widdle guy and it’s complicated” when Biden sent over another $1 Billion in arms to Israel today. If trump was funding this genocide right now, you’d be acting differently.

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            2 months ago

            Yes, there is a difference. Even in this completely insane “death panels” hypothetical situation, I still would not stand with genocide.

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              2 months ago

              I still would not stand with genocide.

              So brave, unlike the rest of us. Because yes my point was I’d love to choose genocide. Not that they both are horrific violations of human rights or anything like that.

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              2 months ago

              It says a lot about your character and what you actually value that you think the way Trump would allow Israel to treat Palestinians is preferable to what Biden is doing.

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                2 months ago

                I absolutely don’t think Trump is preferable. I would like Biden to stop using my tax dollars to fund this genocide. That has nothing to do with trump