• TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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    because men are bad, and women are good.

    and the only way for men to get good is to spend $1000s of dollars talking to therapists, who are predominantly women.

    or maybe… the apparatus of therapy is woman-biased and therefore it negates and legitimatizes men’s emotions and their expression. and the positive things men do in the world with their emotions must be shame and ridicule because they should submit to our belief that talk-therapy is the only legitimate form of emotional outlet…

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      You can flip that around and suggest that it’s normal and accepted for men to put effort into a hobby as a mental release, and this should be perfectly fine for women as well, but sometimes it’s not amd they are in the past seen as weird, abnormal, or hysterical for having interests.

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        But it isn’t normal and accepted for men to put effort into a hobby? It is common and clichéd to mock men endlessly for their interests? Like in this very post?

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        amd they are in the past seen as weird, abnormal, or hysterical for having interests.

        I don’t think it’s ever been considered more weird, abnormal, or hysterical to crotchet as a gal than it has been to build bottle ships for guys. That is, sure, there’s been lots of BS around the type of hobby, it not being “gender-adequate”, but women not allowed to have hobbies? At all? What? Being too poor to have hobbies, sure, but that again is not a gendered thing.

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          don’t let reality get the way of the ‘man = bad woman = good’ narrative.

          women have always had hobbies and been hobbiest, at least among the upper classes. just as men have.

          and the poor women had to work to the bone, just like the poor men.

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        Would’ve been more productive to keep it at “male depression and anxiety is underdiagnosed”, maybe also say “because therapists only learn about female-pattern symptoms”, YMMV on that being pushing a bit too far.

        I will not comment on comments talking about men’s mental health getting downvoted in a post about men’s mental health and, should a definite pattern emerge, let that speak for itself.

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      You realize you can just get a male therapist right?

      They do exist and a lot of them will relate to male emotional expression where it isn’t just outright toxic.