• maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    I’ll be voting Yes. If over the coming months we were to find out that somehow the Voice to Parliament will have a negative impact on demands for Treaties, truth telling, sovereignty among other things then I might change my mind but I find that unlikely. Who knows.

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      1 year ago

      The big problem for me after seeing these is that it seems the government is refusing to give us actual details on what the Voice to Parliament entails. Why are they being so secretive about it and asking us to vote on something that they won’t tell us what it is?

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          1 year ago

          Cheers for the Conversation article. Even though it’s clearly a “Vote Yes” PR article, it has good information in it.

          The issues that I still have with it are that basically we could all vote Yes, have a voice put in the constitution, but then the government at any time can just completely change what the Voice actually entails and how it’s used. With so much handling of it left to the government of the time, it’s very hard to see how it’s not just going to be essentially ignored/reduced every time the LNP get in power for example.

          I guess a “Yes” vote is really a vote for “It’s something at least, it’s a start”, which can definitely be a good thing.

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          1 year ago

          Very possible unfortunately. Not having an answer for basic questions like how many people are appointed, how they’re appointed, and for how long is pathetic.

          The cynic in me goes straight to that there’s a reason why they’re not divulging these things and it’s because the yes voters wouldn’t like the answers.

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            1 year ago

            More billshit, that assertion has already been directly disproven earlier in this thread. Why are you so committed to posting misinformation?

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              1 year ago

              It was not disproven. If it is then you should be able to answer my questions in the comment you replied to then, right?

              How many people are appointed?

              How are they appointed?

              How long are the terms of appointment?

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                1 year ago

                Someone already answered this for you here. I have engaged with you in good faith previously, but it’s becoming increasingly clear you are completely full of shit and are simply attempting to spread doubt and fear.

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                  1 year ago

                  I’m not “attemping to spread” anything. I’m undecided on how I’m going to vote and I’m trying to decide.

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                    1 year ago

                    “Trying to decide”? Let’s review the evidence:

                    • Repeatedly asks the same textbook conservative No campaign questions in every thread.

                    • Refuses to read any of the replies - even when they directly answer the questions being asked.

                    • Openly lies and says no one has answered the questions, even when there is clear evidence to the contrary.

                    Hmm, I’m gonna go with a [X] Doubt on that one bro.

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                1 year ago

                Read the responses others have already posted; you’ll find that your asinine bullshit has already been roundly disproved. You’re constantly posting content you know is false. Why?