Let’s not forget that thread’s data collection is so atrocious that it didn’t launch in small and exotic markets like… Say… The whole of the EU.
I sure wish the United States would write some pro-consumer privacy legislation…
But what about my Quarterly Profits!?!
Man, they should change the saying to “the road to hell is paved with quarterly profits”
For real?
Yep. One reason might be that FB just took a biiiig blow on their entire business model from the highest court in the EU (which came in front of court after an action by in turn the biggest sub-market (Germany)'s anti-trust watchdog bureau got active against them):
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Also a source for the actual claim from above:
Edit; also this: https://lemmy.world/post/1732201
Do you know how this works? I understood if you have Instagram a threads account is already created for you, but is it the App Store location you downloaded from or IP or user set location?
i imagine it’s just very straightforward based on your app store region, because if you spoof that then you’re probably already breaking some ToS so you have no legal ground to stand on
Is the law based on your geographical location or your citizenship? If I’m an EU citizen and travel to California, can these companies store/sell that California data differently? Also say while in Cali I download Threads. Does that mean they can continue to store my data when I return home to the EU?
I don’t mean this comment to be facetious towards OP.
Seeing reports that interest died down on a newly released item, be it a game, social media, or tv series, is just to be expected. May as well report that water is still wet.
boing boing sounds like a reliable source …
Is this a surprise? User retention is hard, and I’d expect this to hit even harder as time goes by. It’ll keep going up until the point where user growth matches attrition and I’d guess in the early days of a social platform, it’s going to take a while for background growth to increase that much and attrition will be pretty high given the lack of attachment.
It’s also worth mentioning that on launch day, people in Europe were able to access it via VPN (not sure how big of a number of users that was), but they’ve since blocked those users. I’m sure that’s not a massive chunk, but it’s a chunk nonetheless
How do you block people using a VPN by region? Just block the whole VPN?
Big companies like Facebook can just block IPs coming from the VPNs, it’s not feasible for someone smaller but they could 100% do it
@Kinga @radarsat1 That’s weird because I only access Facebook with my VPN on via browser and it doesn’t break it. I would think all of MetaZuck’s stuff would be VPN blocked, but it’s not.
Since it’s Facebook, probably by account
It’s not a surprise, but it gets upvoted because “threads bad”.
Oh get out of here w/ that. It’s not bad as much as it’s just stupid - it’s literally a top down approach to social media. Fb & instagram have already made it big so of course they can launch & pull whatever bs they want.
It wasn’t organic & they hadn’t built anything w/ true merit & people are still tired of Zuck. He’s marginally better than musk these days at best. And maybe people aren’t as crazy about celebs & influencers wanting to be seen & heard as we all thought - as that’s not social media - that’s a Coca-cola commercial.
What, are the bots on strike?
I’m probably one of those. I joined because it was a low hanging fruit for an instagram user. It is basically twitter culture all over again. People complain that you’re just posting into a void on Mastodon but I get tons of responses over there. The real void is any mainstream social media where only the voice of influencers are amplified. The whole main feed is just 90% suggested posts. Why the fuck do I wanna see a post from Jake Paul or Mr. Beast?
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I get why that matters for big accounts. I will never understand why normal people prefer that, though. I much prefer engagement with people over consumption of content produced by popular influencers
My experience as well. I blitzed and grinded followers cuz it was easy and why not. My feed is okay in general, but I had to follower 1.5kish people to get it that way.
But I still get more than twice the engagement and meaningful engagement at that on Mastadon and Kbin, with less than half the followers. I also get little out of twitter, but I may be bad at it.
how do you grind followers
Put out robot bait and the follows just rack up.
what’s the point of having robot followers tho
I feel like that’s gotta be pretty normal for hyped up product launches, a lot of people just join to see what it is at first.
Mastodon is so much better
I left Twitter back in 2016 when I realised I wasn’t using it anymore and it had come up in a you’ve been pwnd result. Figured I’d just delete the account instead of resetting the password and didn’t miss it.
But I signed up to Mastodon today, because why not? I don’t really see why it’s being called hard to use. There’s some nice apps as well, which is making me more excited for a Kbin app when I wasn’t so bothered before…
It’s somewhat harder to find friends on there, but once you do they’ll be quality over quantity. And besides, they even have a cool poll-based RPG account.
If half of the users who tried it out stuck around, then they’re incredibly successful.
They didn’t lose anyone, its only been out for a short time. With the recent changes at twitter breaking all sorts of long time features Threads is poised to be its replacement.
They lost plenty of people, at least for now.
What none of these articles seem to want to highlight is that this is completely normal retention behaviour. 50% week 1 retention isn’t excellent by any stretch of the imagination, but it’s well, well within the span of what’s normal.
And Threads is still half baked.
@igalmarino leave it to Fuckerberg to fuck up a simple task of making a privacy focused social media site. Idiots.
Why would any corporate anything want a privacy focused social media site? There’s no way to extract data or money from it. It’s not like they’re in the game to give you a service you want to use. Just enough to keep you generating data so they can sell you.
