It’s not us, it’s you. It’s with a heavy wrench that we have decided to end our partnership with Samsung. Despite a huge amount of effort, Samsung’s approach to repairability does not align with our mission.
It’s not just about the cost though. They’re inferior to pretty much any other mid-range or high-end smartphone too. Expensive but good would be fine. Cheap and mediocre would be fine. Expensive and mediocre though? Nah.
My £250 used phone has a faster processor, more RAM, better screen (higher resolution, brighter, bigger and higher frame rate), and a higher capacity battery with faster charging. It’s a mid-range Xiaomi from a couple years ago, not a high end or flagship phone.
They should take notes from pinephone. Offers something unusual at a low cost. Since enthusiasts eat that stuff up you get extra help with software and ROMs too. Yes it’s low spec, but it’s good enough for enthusiasts to play with and is of good value as the price reflects the quality.
Plenty of other brands which aren’t Chinese are both better and cheaper. Samsung, Apple, Google, Asus even.
Do they all use cheap Chinese labour? Sure. Do you actually think Fair phone doesn’t? Even if they somehow completely avoid China for the whole supply chain, they will inevitably get cheap labour from somewhere - like Taiwan or Costa Rica. After all they are using standard Qualcomm parts, so that’s going to be either TSMC in Taiwan or Samsung in China and Korea.
According to their own website their living wage bonus is only $2.63. It doesn’t even say if that’s per hour or per day.
Yeah, roll one out with a 5.8" screen and a headphone jack amd I’ll buy it at a premium. I’d shell out even more for a true iPhone mini-sized phone if they make the battery fat enough for decent battery life – small phones can still be ergonomic and light enough with a little extra chonk.
Giant screen, no headphone jack? No thanks, I might as well buy a $50 android phone at a gas station.
I mean if you keep a FP5 for it’s entire service life it’s actually a pretty damn cheap phone. If all goes well maybe a couple of battery changes tops.
I’m glad phone screens are so durable nowadays. I’ve used my oneplus 6t for 5 years and still it’s not broken. I broke my back cover last summer though but that was after battery replacement. I’d still buy a cheapidh nokia for my next phone with ifixit partnership
I would rather buy nokia with ifixit partnership and save hundreds of euros. for me it’s about the money 700€ is a shit ton of money
edit: okay after looking moreninto nokia phones (or hmd phones, maker of current nokias) I would propably hold my money until they release something new and good which isnt too expensive, currently their lineup is a bit weird. but they do make the phones mostly from recycled materials and I like the idea of that company. (mostly cuz it’s finnish and even stores the data in finland so no china involved)
Buy an older secondhand flagship. It’s actually an even greener option. Battery may need replacing but hopefully* EU will make that easier for all of us.
Let’s all buy Fairphones. I know they’re expensive. But it’s not about the money. It’s about sending a message.
It’s not just about the cost though. They’re inferior to pretty much any other mid-range or high-end smartphone too. Expensive but good would be fine. Cheap and mediocre would be fine. Expensive and mediocre though? Nah.
My £250 used phone has a faster processor, more RAM, better screen (higher resolution, brighter, bigger and higher frame rate), and a higher capacity battery with faster charging. It’s a mid-range Xiaomi from a couple years ago, not a high end or flagship phone.
They should take notes from pinephone. Offers something unusual at a low cost. Since enthusiasts eat that stuff up you get extra help with software and ROMs too. Yes it’s low spec, but it’s good enough for enthusiasts to play with and is of good value as the price reflects the quality.
Well, yeah… Xiaomi is a Chinese phone! Why do you think it’s so cheap and more powerful?
Unless Fairphone also uses Chinese labor?
Plenty of other brands which aren’t Chinese are both better and cheaper. Samsung, Apple, Google, Asus even.
Do they all use cheap Chinese labour? Sure. Do you actually think Fair phone doesn’t? Even if they somehow completely avoid China for the whole supply chain, they will inevitably get cheap labour from somewhere - like Taiwan or Costa Rica. After all they are using standard Qualcomm parts, so that’s going to be either TSMC in Taiwan or Samsung in China and Korea.
According to their own website their living wage bonus is only $2.63. It doesn’t even say if that’s per hour or per day.
Well, yikes!
But my current phone can already send messages…
Screen is too large for me, would be nice to see a small Fairphone
Yeah, roll one out with a 5.8" screen and a headphone jack amd I’ll buy it at a premium. I’d shell out even more for a true iPhone mini-sized phone if they make the battery fat enough for decent battery life – small phones can still be ergonomic and light enough with a little extra chonk.
Giant screen, no headphone jack? No thanks, I might as well buy a $50 android phone at a gas station.
Agreed, recently had to switch to an iPhone 6s as my other phone broke. I think I might stay mainly because of the size and comfort of use
You are too small for the phone.
Wish I was ._.
I mean if you keep a FP5 for it’s entire service life it’s actually a pretty damn cheap phone. If all goes well maybe a couple of battery changes tops.
And a charging port. A screen if you are clumsy.
I’m glad phone screens are so durable nowadays. I’ve used my oneplus 6t for 5 years and still it’s not broken. I broke my back cover last summer though but that was after battery replacement. I’d still buy a cheapidh nokia for my next phone with ifixit partnership
its* entire service life
The message that we approve of the removal of the headphone jack done in order to peddle wireless headphones…
I’ll tell my mom that
I would rather buy nokia with ifixit partnership and save hundreds of euros. for me it’s about the money 700€ is a shit ton of money
edit: okay after looking moreninto nokia phones (or hmd phones, maker of current nokias) I would propably hold my money until they release something new and good which isnt too expensive, currently their lineup is a bit weird. but they do make the phones mostly from recycled materials and I like the idea of that company. (mostly cuz it’s finnish and even stores the data in finland so no china involved)
Still not convinced they’re for sale in my region.
I want a headphone jack.
I’m poor
Buy an older secondhand flagship. It’s actually an even greener option. Battery may need replacing but hopefully* EU will make that easier for all of us.
Sure, as soon as they sell them in North America with a normal OS
I have a fairphone