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On May 17, the National Park Service officially determined that park rangers and other employees cannot attend Pride festivities and parades in uniform. This decision reverses a long history of allowing such participation and even having official delegation in Pride parades across the United States. Anonymous LGBTQ+ employees report feeling betrayed and note that official Pride participation in major cities is uncertain as multiple parades finalize and applications to participate in parades remain unprocessed. The move comes amid increasing crackdowns on Pride flags and LGBTQ+ people nationwide. In most cases, Republican legislators and appointees have been behind such bans, but this time, it appears the National Park Service, led by a Biden-approved director, is restricting park participation in LGBTQ+ celebrations.
Wow Biden is doing so much for the LGBT community 🥺 showing us once again that we cannot trust Democrats and solidifying radical left politics. Thanks Biden!!
There are straight park rangers?
I’m surprised they allowed it at all. Usually any organization, public or private, will tell employees not to imply endorsement of anything not officially sponsored.
I’m also surprised that Stonewall is a national monument. Apparently it was an Obama decision, so I guess it was a fuck-you to hate.
Are they barred from veteran’s day and St. Patrick’s Day parades as well, or does the NPS participate in those? How about 4th of July?
Has this always been the case? If not, who was on the board that made the decision and what is their political affiliation?
In a world where half the electorate thinks a judge must be prejudiced and has no problem with their autocratic leader saying that ethnicity decides whether someone is “fair,” I think these are legitimate followup questions.
We needed a de-trumpification of the government. Anyone appointed by Trump or hired by an appointee should have been dismissed. This is basically what Trump is planning on doing.
This comes from Frank Lands, who joined NPS in 2021. The director of NPS, Chuck Sams, was confirmed also in 2021. Both are from the Biden administration.
NPS has walked in the SF pride parade for years. Any large org will have a contingent, it’s a normal part of being in the community here. Usually the LGBT employees will take part, but allies can too … it’s participation in a community event.
NPS rangers don’t just represent the org, but they also represent the idea of working in the outdoors/in conservation. If you’re a young person who wants to work outdoors one day, it makes a huge difference to see that people like you are allowed to openly be themselves especially considering that machismo past of NPS and outdoors work.
NPS isn’t just about nature, in SF NPS controls Alcatraz and you can bet your ass that all the rangers who have learned all about the history have strong views about the prison system today. NPS is a contingent of the government with very strong values, what they choose to conserve, what history they choose to tell … I don’t think it’s any different to have employees show up at pride.
So by the sound of it, no one is being bared from participating, and the Pride events in the parks are not cancelled, though a bunch of approvals for participation in other events are waiting on a decision.
Just can’t use the official NPS uniforms.
Ok. Fair enough.
Every NPS employee should get custom shirts that state clearly who they work for. Maybe even design them to look similar to the uniforms. March in those, and leave no question who you are. Then we’ll see what happens.
A federal government organization is pulling back from openly supporting lgbtq+. It’s a big fuck you to the community and a big deal. Somebody decided that supporting that community was a bad look and had the power to be a dick about it.
That somebody is Charles “Chuck” Sam’s the third, a Biden appointment and first native American to serve in the position.
This is some bullshit.
Fucking why
Biden’s national parks service director said no
For the same reason police shouldn’t be allowed to participate in white power marches in their uniforms. They are supposed to be neutral.Imagine equating hate groups associated with lynching to groups seeking equal rights and protections. You’re a clown
Ok. Same reason firefighters are not supposed to let their kids wear their helmet while selling lemonade. They are supposed to be impartial.huh?
Okay, I do have big respect for putting a strikethru instead of deleting your comments. That’s cool, I’m going to do that in the future
Police do participate in pride parades in their uniforms.
That is a really good point. I need to rethink this entirely. It does seem discriminatory or at the very least highly illogical.
I had thought of it as brand-dillutution, like making tic-tocs in your uniform but since this is a federally recognized class it really is more like wearing your uniform off-duty.
And the other context you may be missing was this was encouraged for years. NPS organized to walk in SF pride, in their uniforms, for as long as I can remember. And NPS does have rules about what you can and can’t do in uniform … I wasn’t allowed to buy alcohol after work in uniform. Thanks for reconsidering your view.
While the alcohol thing seems overly draconian this seems more like “you cant use your wheelchair in uniform.” Seems begging for a lawsuit.
Yeah, my point is that they have some strict rules and have chosen for years to encourage people in uniform to show up at Pride. So this was a clear choice that was made for years that has suddenly changed.
Anonymous LGBTQ+ employees report feeling betrayed
I don’t really see the problem. Don’t go in your National Park Service uniform and you can participate. The organization doesn’t want to get pulled into political disputes and isn’t going to want their endorsement to be implied one way or the other. The employees in question aren’t acting as spokesmen for the NPS (and if they were, then I can say that the restrictions they’d run into would be a lot more severe, like being told what they can and can’t say).
Most people aren’t going to be wearing uniforms anyway, because their jobs don’t involve a uniform.
That’s also not specific to the NPS or to Pride stuff. The military also has a lot of restrictions on what people can be doing politically when wearing uniform, because the military isn’t supposed to be playing in politics. It works for the public, and the public makes the political calls.
Withdrawing support that’s already been there in this organization is specific, actually. This wasn’t a call made by the public, it was made by the people running the org. The decision itself is political. If you think the military isn’t supposed to be political, you must have thought don’t ask don’t tell was complete BS, right? Or is it ok when it’s politically conservative?
Especially at a time when LGBTQ+ people are currently being attacked by the terrorists within our own government passing laws preventing them from getting healthcare and being able to discuss their families.
I mean maybe quit fucking in the woods
yall might think i’m joking or being whateverist but there’s a nice thicketed section of the waterfront in Toronto and there always people fucking in there. I used to bike past it on my commute, never saw any women going in. Thought it was just a nice path til I went in and was immediately propositioned. I mean I see the appeal of fucking outside but designated outdoor orgy zones are a little much
Even that’s a little hysterical though to connect to the NPS being dickfighters I suppose.
edit: 34 little bitches who can not read, f, u, c, k, i, n, g! one in the bush, one in the tree, one on the bus right next to me
I didn’t realise fucking in public was this popular IRL. It’s probably not, but anyway, sorry everyone!
What the fuck does a story you made up about people off of a path in Toronto have to do with park rangers in the US? Maybe stop being such a bigot.
Oh, does the NPS not do forests? i guess there can be no possible connection!
Oh, I get it, you want to go and I didn’t tell you where. It’s here! In the Frolicking Trails, i mean you can’t make this shit up. Don’t get me wrong I’d be down there every day if I didn’t already have this other life, now you stop being obtuse and ornery, ya silly bitch.
A connection to random people? Are you actually claiming that US park rangers are traveling to Toronto parks to touch your chest? WTF is wrong with you?
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lmao yes that’s what i’m saying. You’re definitely worth talking to - an excellent conversationalist and not at all a boring idiot! Have a great day! bubye
edit: Sorry, that was crotchety of me, but I did ask you to stop being obtuse.
the NPS is an American government organization , do you actually not understand that?
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lmao coward ;)
yeah the dude who ran his finger down my chest as I made apologies and tried to retreat was definitely a wakeup call
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If not wanting to fuck randos in public makes me a homophobe then so be it I guess, I guess all the prostate orgasms I have and all the anal sex I get done to me I suppose just makes me more phobic too, right, you squawking parrot?
QQ
Seriously though I linked the park elsewhere in the thread if you need a hookup
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What does the NPS have to do with a random park in Toronto 😂😂 sounds awesome I want to go the Canadian Fuck Forest
