It struck me watching Christopher Nolan’s masterful three-hour epic telling of the story of J. Robert Oppenheimer, long labeled the Father of the Atomic Bomb, that this is a period piece with…

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    11 months ago

    I thought intercutting the bombing of Hiroshima with THAT sex scene was done as tastefully as it could have been.

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    Stupid question.

    Is the movie actually understandable without subtitles?

    The plot and story for Tenet was right up my alley, but my inability to understand the dialog frustrated the crap out of me - and I have a pretty solid home audio setup.

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      After having seen it, there are some scenes where it is difficult to follow the dialog which I’m sure is intentional. I haven’t seen Tenet but I think Oppenheimer is not as bad in this regard, in part because there’s less exposition – this is all based on real events in the real world and there aren’t a lot of mechanics to have to explain, and also because the story isn’t as plot-driven as many of Nolan’s thrillers. No MacGuffins, no car chases, shootouts or real twists; it’s more about the man, his relationships and how his career plays out. That said, for example there is a scene where he’s talking to his wife outdoors, it’s windy and they’re not facing camera and the fact that I couldn’t follow what they were saying did take me out… instead of being engaged in the conversation I was more aware I was sitting there watching Chris Nolan dialogue, waiting for it to be over.

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      just watched it in a barbenheimer combo. the dialogue wasn’t as clear as in barbie, but much better than tenet! So still ‘nolany’ dialogue, but well watchable without subtitles.

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      It’s perfectly understandable from an audio perspective, what makes it hard to follow is continually jumping around in time frames.

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      i’m planning on getting a caption reciever thing - hopefully they aren’t all rented out

      shit, will there be a line?

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      Saw it last night. Subtitles would have been nice. I admit I don’t have the best hearing though.

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      The trailer was very audible in the theater. Not sure if the movie mix would be the same though

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    Oppenheimer was a brilliant physicist. Born-Oppenheimer approximation, incredible contributions to quantum and nuclear physics. Simply an incredible guy. He has my deepest respect

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      I think it’s funny that the film openheimer is very similar to a recently made Chinese film about Their atomic bomb father

      I ain’t no defense analyst but I think this film is fed funded. I don’t care man whatever it takes to get a history movie

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        Oppenheimer was basically canceled by the US military industrial security apparatus. I highly doubt the feds funded a film about an avid left winger.

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          And I don’t think Nolan has any trouble finding funding for his movies. Funny to see the same cinema packed for a biopic when it was mostly empty for the premier of the new Mission Impossible. Nolan gets butts on the seats.

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    11 months ago

    I really liked the call back to Breaking Bad when he’s like: " Say my name! Say it! Say it! Damn right I’m Oppenheimer"

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    The ending of the NY times review stuck out at me: “François Truffaut once wrote that “war films, even pacifist, even the best, willingly or not, glorify war and render it in some way attractive.” This, I think, gets at why Nolan refuses to show the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, world-defining events that eventually killed an estimated 100,000 to upward of 200,000 souls.”

    Nah, that ain’t why. It’s because western audiences aren’t ready to deal with the horror these things cause. That’s it. Or, to put it another way, they’re Chicken Shit.

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      There’s certain snippets I hope I never see or hear again because they’ve been so overplayed. Here’s my top offenders; the snippet of the Kennedy speech about going to the moon before the end of the decade, the Armstrong quote first step upon the moon, the atomic explosions of WWII, the Bikini Atoll h-bomb test, and any portion of the hymn Amazing Grace. So what they’re doing is avoiding stuff people don’t want to see because it’s played out. I’d say that’s just good movie making.

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    I get to see this tomorrow night on a massive screen and I’m legit excited. I’m a Nolan fan and I love historical films/shows so that’s a extra bonus.💃🏻

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    I hope it does well at the box office, ‘cause you know what everyone will say if it doesn’t… it stinks!

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    Unfortunately I will see only in late August. In my country, Italy, they decided to don’t barbenheimer.