• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Part of the problem with contrarian takes is that they spend a lot of time telling you not to believe your lying eyes.

    Politicians already have methods for “anonymous” voting. We get to see it in the Dem Senate regularly, whenever there’s a vote for closure. One Senate in a safe seat saying no can shield 59 others who didn’t really want the bill to pass.

    It doesn’t improve the process. On the contrary, it makes the system that much more corrupt. A handful of Liebermans, Sinemas, and Machins can extort favors from the rest of the body politic to play fall guy.

    Meanwhile, money doesn’t flow towards individual candidates, but political action committes which sponsor ideology. Politicians are rewarded for bills failing, regardless of which particular vote was the deciding one.

    Whether politicians are lying isn’t the issue. It’s where popular legislation is passing. Anonymity does nothing to incentivize politicians to pass popular legislation.

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      6 months ago

      I suppose those are equally valid points barring further investigation.

      I guess my question for you would be, what makes you suspect the Sinemas and Machins of the world are being “fall guys” instead of just being genuine blockers who vote that way to protect their seats in particularly conservative districts?

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        6 months ago

        what makes you suspect the Sinemas and Machins of the world are being “fall guys” instead of just being genuine blockers

        They’re granted committee seats by the party leadership in places where they can do the most damage.

        Sinema’s a freshman senator with a seat on the appropriations committee. That’s unheard of for Junior senators.

        Manchin’s seat on the Energy and Martial Resources committee has given him a voice in pro-coal policy making for decades.

        How did they get these positions? Schumer assigned them. He’s endorsing their policy as a result.

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          6 months ago

          Hm. I’ll have to look into this a bit more. Thank you for your perspective!