• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
    33·
    6 months ago

    If there were no government regulations, they would have nothing to complain about

    I promise you that if you put a libertarian into a place without government regulation, they will still insist that there is a secret government regulation responsible for their lives being shit.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      121·
      6 months ago

      Sadly, I think you’re probably right. I used to tell them to go to Rwanda if they wanted to live in a tax-free utopia, but Rwanda has taxation now what with it having a more or less functional government now.

    • iopq@lemmy.world
      18·
      6 months ago

      You seem to confuse us with leftists. No, it’s not the patriarchy/white people keeping you down. We’re the first to tell you that you are responsible for your own success

      • frezik
        6·
        6 months ago

        Keep on assuming we just don’t understand, despite libertarians spewing their shit all over the Internet for decades at this point.

          • frezik
            1·
            6 months ago

            If you’ve been spewing your shit all over the Internet for decades and people still think that, then either:

            • Your outreach efforts don’t work
            • You actually are, because that’s how you behave in practice no matter what you babble about when proselytizing
            • iopq@lemmy.world
              11·
              6 months ago

              People still think bisexuals are gays in denial. People still think there are two genders. It’s hard to escape binary thinking

      • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldΕλληνικά
        4·
        6 months ago

        they will still insist that there is a secret government regulation responsible for their lives being shit.

        We’re the first to tell you that you are responsible for your own success

        The problem is being the last to admit that you are responsible for all your own fuckups.

        • iopq@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 months ago

          To claim credit for your successes you need to also admit fault for your failures, it goes both ways

          • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldΕλληνικά
            1·
            6 months ago

            I’m dying right now. You must be going through life with horse-blinders on or something.

            • iopq@lemmy.world
              1·
              6 months ago

              What’s your point? Libertarians are all about taking personal responsibility

              • frezik
                2·
                6 months ago

                Ron Paul can’t even take responsibility for racist newsletters.

                Edit: will you respond with “he didn’t have time to edit them” (undermining the personal responsibility point), or “Ron Paul isn’t libertarian” (No True Libertarian). I await with baited breath.

                • iopq@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  6 months ago

                  I used to like him as an outsider candidate, but I can no longer endorse his views, especially as he tacitly defends Russian authoritarian state by demanding the US go back on its security guarantees.

                  There’s a split between Kremlintarians and liberal democracy supporting libertarians. The racist newsletters were the canary in the coal mine, Ron Paul is actually fairly right wing and gets a lot of support from right wing people. I would no longer support him or his son for President.

              • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldΕλληνικά
                1·
                6 months ago

                Do you have a source on that? My experience with libertarians is “I do what I want, and if I cause problems for you, fuck you” not “I’m personally responsible for my actions and the effects they have on my surroundings”.

                Also, you blindly missing the point, and then dodging it instead of admitting you missed the crux of the issue was just chef’s kiss perfect.