• Pirasp@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Honestly, anyone who says god is all powerful and all knowing clearly hasn’t read the Bible. There is a clear character arc there, and that’s absolutely incompatible with those two assumptions.

    I man, look at the whole Jesus thing! He makes himself human to see why the humans can’t be good, he does retain at least some of his godly powers in human form tho. Even as God made human he has outbursts of rage and is at least at one time incredibly inconsiderate to his parents. Clear character faults if you ask me. At the end he is like “shit was hard man, goddamn!” and changes toe policy for going to heaven completely.

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      6 months ago

      Don’t forget how he raped a child to impregnate her, thus also committing adultery and breaking one of his own commandments at the same time, just so he could send his “only begotten son” to die, just to effectively give up and never return.

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        6 months ago

        Not enough info to meaningfully talk about rape imho, and the ‘son’ thing is a bit complicated. Probably more correctly described as a kind of aspect?

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          6 months ago

          So like conservatives in ‘Merica he just makes a woman have a child by sheer force of will. No rape involved!

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            6 months ago

            Rape means no consent, has nothing to do with the unconventional way of conception. The entire passage is so imprecisely written, that I don’t think you can for sure say it would have been rape.

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              6 months ago

              Well power impacts consent… can you really fully consent to an all powerful being when there’s a chance they might destroy your life for refusing?

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                6 months ago

                First of all, not all powerful. That is what my first comment was all about. Second, I wouldn’t categorically say no, unlikely, but not impossible. Thirdly, why do so many people feel like debating the finer points of a fictional event with me? You guys are almost as bad as harry potter nerds, except you hate the book you are talking about.

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                  6 months ago

                  uh wow, I thought we were just chatting, not debating. Why are you acting like this? I also never specified my beliefs so it’s weird to jump to all these conclusions.