• kevindqc@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    I will give up this talking point the day the US doesn’t have a two-party system.

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      19 days ago

      So Dems can literally do anything and you’ll support them. They support genocide and you accept that.

      Let me guess, if we just vote the technically lesser evil they’ll change this time, right? If we just elect one more corporate dem with lobby money falling out of their ass that’ll get the party to change direction, right?

      Just keep voting Republican-lite and one of these days the slide towards fascism will reverse, magically. It’s been working really well these last forty years, right? People have done exactly what you’re suggesting and things have just been getting better and better huh.

      Delusional. And all just to avoid having to face having your comfortable bubble of denial popped. All those Americans getting churned up and crushed by the consequences of your political support for do-nothing policy just need to understand that you’re doing ok in the status quo, so they need to understand it’s their obligation to protect you. They just gotta take a few more for the team

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        There are only two choices in this election. Democrat or republican. Due to the way the US election system works, not voting against the fascists who literally have a playbook on how to destroy the US democracy is the same as voting for the fascists who literally have a playbook on how to destroy the US democracy.

        The Israelis committing genocide is not even close to the biggest threat facing our country at the moment.

        Plus, Trump literally wants to nuke Gaza, while Biden is trying to get Israeli to agree to a cease fire. Not to mention that congress is responsible for the sales of arms.

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        19 days ago

        The delusion is ignoring the election and then complaining (edit about what gets elected). I’m SURE you won’t do that.

        The goal is to do harm reduction now, and start building a better candidate for next time.

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          19 days ago

          No ones ignoring the election. You vote and send a clear message that they can’t ignore; Uncommitted. i.e. “I voted against you because of genocide. Period.” There will be no room for blithering about how maybe dems didn’t appeal to imaginary disillusioned Republicans enough or that people want bipartisan genocide or how we can afford to ignore the youth vote blah blah. The reason they lost the vote will be crystal fucking clear.

          They can then choose to accept that reality and adjust, or they can deny it and continue doing the same losing strategy. If they continue using the same losing strategy at that point then that is a sure sign that the DNC will never be capable of learning or adapting and that they will never be capable of confronting fascism. And at that point the American people need to start considering harder realities.

          The goal is to do harm reduction now, and start building a better candidate for next time.

          This has never worked. We are where we are right now because this kind of thinking has been allowed to prevail in the Democratic party. Things have not improved, we have lost basic rights, not gained more. We have grown closer to fascism inder the corporate Democrat leadership, not further.

          When they spit in your fucking face next election cycle and tell you to vote for their chosen corporate conservative Dem like a good dog you’ll do it, repeating the same brainless line you’re trying to spin right now.

          Know how I know? Because it’s been the same bullshit neoliberals have been doing for forty fucking years. Same trajectory of failure and short-term, fear-based voting.

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            19 days ago

            Ok enjoy trump HAPPILY supporting genocide ENTHUSIASTICALLY both in Palestine and in Ukraine.

            You are in a limited outcome situation. You get one choice in January: trump or Biden. One of them will be president.

            Edit I share the opinion bidens choices are very very bad, I just acknowledge trump will make them worse

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              Oh don’t worry, they’ll be patting themselves on the back. They think that if you just walk away from the trolley problem, they have no fault. Their neck will be in the guillotine and they still won’t see how they contributed to it. Purity politics are a selfish, foolish plague on our nation.