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    5 months ago

    We have this shit at work, they make it incredibly hard to get a fucking attachment as a real attachment instead of a link to their cloud

    Specially annoying since my organization is “geofence” but we work with people all over the world… So MS insists on switching attachments to links nobody can open outside my country

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        And how if you share a file in Teams and then six months later you want to share a file with the same name to ANYONE else via teams, well that’s a big no-can-do. Teams just went ahead and uploaded that file to your “stuff to share” folder in OneDrive and didn’t put it in a subfolder unique to the chat, or add a unique prefix or suffix or anything because hey, you’ll only ever share a file with a particular name once in your life, right?

        And nobody would ever want to share a file with the same name, but different data, right? So Teams can just give the end user the choice between replacing the current file with the new one, or sharing the same one again to these new guys, because there’s no possible use case for actually having two files named the same with different information in the file, right?

        Nobody would want to share a README.TXT, or Photo001.jpg, or contact.ics, or a zip file of a folder they just downloaded from Teams’ SharePoint interface, the file that’s automatically called “OneDrive.zip” without the option to change it before saving, more than once, right? Right??

        Fuck teams. And fuck Teams(New) too, just for the shitty name.

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        Yes but If you chose the full attachment, half the time I just get the link

        This is because MS will force it if they think the attachment is an odd extension or too big or whatever

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          I think this it not necessarily a bad thing. Worked in an office where they produce GB of CAD files. Sending it as attachment would fail for most clients because of their mailbox size, and receiving it also sucks because it would clog the local outlook inbox file, and everything would crawl to a halt when you open Outlook in the morning.

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          No, it only does it when it is too big. And that is very convenient rather than it trying to send your message and then giving you a failure notice. Why are you bitching about features that actively make your life easier?

          There is a lot to bitch at M$ about, but this is not one of them.

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            5 months ago

            It doesn’t make my life any better as those links never work.

            If it works for you fine, don’t need to be offended like I insulted your girlfriend

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                Yeah, it sure does sound like it would be hard to have a notification if the attachment is going to fail due to size policies, and then have an option to use the link or cancel the attachment (and have you choose another way). It would also be unheard of for there to be a setting in that dialog to say to always do whatever action you take so it only inconveniences those who go with the default once.

                User-hostile software is never a “you” problem. This applies to a number of FOSS products, as well.

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                  If that were the case, it would confuse users. It would be flooded with tickets about the weird notification that they got and didn’t read and how they can’t attach files anymore.

                  “Cancel the link attachment”???

                  Fucking press backspace! Jesus Christ, did you just get your first computer ever? I’m getting the picture that critical thinking isn’t really your forte.

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                    If you wish to talk about critical thinking, look at your own statements with respect to mine. Not once did I say cancel thenlink attachment, but this thing I didn’t say sure got you upset. Moreover, I wasn’t writing a formal specification. I’m sorry your assuming the worst and least likely meaning of what I thought was a pretty simple statement triggered you so badly.

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                Lol, you think MS is watching and will give a treat for being such a nice little follower?

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                  Nope, I just deal with OneDrive support constantly and I can say definitively that it’s pretty decent at what it does, and if the links you are getting or sending are not working, it is your fault.

                  If you want to bitch about something substantive, how about bitching about how 365 has like 20 admin panels that are opaque about what they are and what they do, terrible menu layouts in those menus, etc.

                  That stuff is a very real problem.

                  Some boomer who can’t figure out how cloud drives work is not a real issue.

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                    Hey everybody, only this guy’s problems are the important ones … so forget what you are concerned about and just listen to this guy

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          That’s probably because your file is over 10MB and would be rejected by most receiving systems

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            Yes, that’s what MS thinks… Yet that’s not the case as I can successfully get the files off SharePoint to my PC and then email them

            The issue is MS doing this on its own accord and without proper warning or way to permanently override

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        5 months ago

        You can even convert a shared link to an attachment by right clicking on it before sending (assuming you’re using Outlook web instead of the ancient garbage Outlook desktop app.)