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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that’s the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

    • Strykker@programming.dev
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      6 months ago

      A 120v standard Ac adapter is all you need for overnight charging, and I’m pretty sure those come with the cars.

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        6 months ago

        Lv 1 charges are pretty shitty…takes my car about 12 minutes to get a mile-worth of charge on a 120v. I could still make it through a week of commuting doing that, but my range was a little lower each day until the weekend when I didn’t have to commute. That being said, I ponied up for a 220v outlet in the garage, and the Lv 2 charging is much better. Takes about 15 minutes to recharge from a days-worth of driving (usually 30-40 miles between work and running the kids around to all their activities).

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            6 months ago

            I had to get an electrician to come run the 220 line for me because I don’t trust myself with high voltage electrical work. Bought the charger itself on Amazon for around $300. I installed that part myself. Wasn’t too hard, basically jist mounted the converter to the wall and plugged it in.

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      6 months ago

      “when you are empty, and you have to drive right away, its faster to refuel your car with petrol”

      My relatives dont have a charger at home, they just plug their car into an outlet, and get ~40km range over night. That more than enough for the daily commute.

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        6 months ago

        Overnight isn’t “right away”. “I have to get to y right away!” “Sure! I’ll just charge the car and you can leave tomorrow!”.

        Listen, I’m not saying that EVs are shit but they are currently not my cup of tea. It’s just all this BS. Of course it’s faster to refuel a car with petrol than to charge a battery. Would you also deny that it’s faster for me to fill up a glass of water than you charging your phone? I ENVY the great fuel economy that EV owners get. This sucks for petrol cars.

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      6 months ago

      Not at home it’s not. Where’s your back garden petrol station lol.

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        6 months ago

        I don’t know what to do with you people… We both have 5km range left. You plug in the cable juice and I plug in the gas to refuel. Who leaves the station first?

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          6 months ago

          Charged at home and never needed to stop. Ten mins down the road already. Go shout at clouds old man.

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            6 months ago

            So your electric car has more range than a similarly sized gas car? Unlikely.

            Given both vehicles start at “full”, drive until you have low range left. Now talk about convenience of filling up in the middle of nowhere, or when in a hurry.

            Is this use case common for everyone? Definitely not, but I run into it a few times a month.

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              6 months ago

              So you admit you are talking about edge cases. This is why no-one cares what you think. You are arguing for slower, less efficient, more polluting vehicles just cos it’ll save a few minutes on a long run. Get outta here. Jokes.

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                6 months ago

                I’m talking about millions of occurrences of this edge case a day.

                I’m not sure what you’re trying to fight. I said multiple times that we should continue to encourage and expand our use of electric vehicles. But to blindly fanboy electric cars without being able to honestly admit that we have some improvements to make just makes you stupid and smug.

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                  6 months ago

                  https://youtu.be/vz4qnwNKxt4?si=

                  They don’t mention it in the video because they could get in trouble but best estimates for how long they had been driving 360 miles for is 5 hours and on the Porsche it shows a drive time of ten hours. That’s well into take a proper break from driving time. 45mins every 4.5hrs for a total of 9 is considered safe with some extra hour extensions.