• Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
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    6 months ago

    Felonies restrict rights. I have no issue with that. We take away many rights under a felony.

    Otherwise there is no punishment.

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      6 months ago

      I reject a felony affecting individual rights. I will never report anyone with a conviction for possessing guns.

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        6 months ago

        There is more to this than guns. This is about losing constitutional rights over a minor conviction.

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            6 months ago

            A misdemeanor conviction is a minor conviction. A serious crime is a felony.

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          Every and all kinds of convictions will never negate or nulify consituional rights. A criminal still keeps 100% of consituional rights. No law restricts a constituional right.

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            6 months ago

            Criminals do not keep all their constitutional rights, when they are incarcerated they are not free to move about or posses many things. Felons on probation are not allowed to associate with other felons.

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              6 months ago

              And after they have been released from incarceration, I treat them as still posessing every and all constituional rights.

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                6 months ago

                How you treat them doesn’t change that they’ve lost rights expressly enumerated in the constitution.

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                  6 months ago

                  I will never report any person I know if they do something that is within the consitution but has a criminal conviction, there is no crime. If a convict has a gun, I ignore the law and treat them as being within their rights if the gun is currently being used in a criminal matter.

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            6 months ago

            That isn’t true. A felon can’t vote in many jurisdictions. They can’t own a gun. They can’t run for certain offices. There are many things a felon can’t do.

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              And I reject all of that. I say a felon can still vote, hold office, and own guns. When I find out a convict has firearms or guns, I do not report them because I protect their eternal right to own guns, unrestricted, regardless of a record.