They’re basically full incels who claim women are shallow and hate men below 6 foot…

and dudes ‘dick sizing’ posting selfies of their faces to each other “no I’m more handsome than you” pure incel weirdo shit

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    I guess it’s easy to blame your lack of success with women on your height or dick size instead of facing the fact that they would still be unfuckable if they were 7 feet tall and had an 8 inch dick

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    I spent over 40 years of my life telling people that I’m 5’11", only to find out a couple years ago I’m actually 186cm, and my mother has no idea how to use a tape measure. Which also explains why the baseboards she measured out for when we finished her basement never fit correctly.

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    I’ve heard people claim they carry around tape measures to check if someone is actually 6’ or just 5’11". Some dude once told me on Reddit that he was 6’3" but would tell people that he was 6’ to skew peoples perceptions of what that looked like to make shorter men feel bad or something.

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      I am not a short king but I am a straight cis Asian guy, and this at least somewhat true and I did not know it until I did serious work on myself and actually pinpointed the behaviors of mine that were clearly my insecurity and desperation to be liked seeping out (speaking in generalities to myself and others, name-dropping stuff I thought would make me cool, reacting by matching my tone and enthusiasm to that of the person speaking to me rather than giving a more organic response that’s less of a departure from what I felt deep down.)

      A lot of these short guys, like Asian incels, bond over insecure feelings and observations they independently arrived at due to them being the first level thoughts of any guy who’s unlucky romantically due to having a stereotypically negative trait. They believe these feelings and observations are them getting a peek at an unlocked well of truth, rather than equally resigned quitters validating one another’s ideas borne out of self loathing and the need to have a mentally placative answer for indecipherable and unpredictable social dynamics.

      Just like how, when an Asian incels sees an Asian guy being confident with girls they auto-assume that guy was adopted by whites/had Americanized parents/is gay, then tell each other that as if it’s a shared universal rule, bitter short guys will see some short guy who dates women taller and hotter than him and tell each other that the guy must be rich/famous/large penised/ex military.

      These kinds of online social groups/subreddits are literally anti-achievement and self-growth. The more their shared lore is outspun to try to comprehensively and objectively catalog the hard and fast rules of a nebulous and volatile reality, the more detached from normalcy they become and the further they are away from having dating success or even natural human interactions.

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        As a fellow Asian who’s tried dating in the West, I definitely agree that the Asian incel movement is a terrible response to the gendered racism which pervades many Westoid societies. Working on yourself and making meaningful changes is always the better option though I feel like this is the dating equivalent of a racist job market where an Asian person has to be twice as good as a mid white guy just to be considered on the same level.

        Maybe it’s a lot different now than when I was last “on the market” many years ago.

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          I’ll be honest. The dating market in western countries looks super hard if you’re Asian or Indian.

          I’ve had some white women tell me the only time they’ve been attracted to “said ethnic group” is when the guy was “mixed with white”

          I think our dating market is super euro centric unfortunately.

          Doesn’t man asian/Indian dudes can’t find love. We’ve all seen it happen. It definitely looks harder for you guys though, at least initially

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      You can’t stop people from having preferences but personally I think anyone who broadcasts a preference based on immutable physical characteristics should be seen as shallow in the same way as a dudebro who proudly proclaims that he only dates blondes or whatever.

      The flip side of the “everyone has preferences” coin is that many people will interpret that as a go ahead to openly say shit like “no blacks, no Asians, no Indians” on their profiles.

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      And in the midst of having all that rage, they’ll say “Oh YEaH, BuT WhAt AbOuT mEn HAVING WEIGhT PRefErenCEs!?!?!?!?” or some shit like that.

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    So in all my autistic glory, I subbed to /r/short because I am a petite person and thought it would have content related to being height challenged - these are the best step stools, here are some hilarious short people memes, etc

    🤦

    didn’t take me long to figure out how wrong I was, but I did waste a little more time trying to tell them that two of the hottest dudes I had dated were under 5’8" - one of them was barely an inch taller than me, and I’m below-average for American women. The fact that I didn’t the up marrying the short dudes meant I was another height-obsessed feeeeemale. 🙄

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      Back in the day I was subbed to /r/tall because I am tall, and the best part of the sub was short people coming over to comment on how much nicer the tall sub was than the short one. We were mostly trading tips on clothes that fit and desks that wouldn’t give us back pain, while our nominally sibling sub was just raging about us existing.

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    i am pretty sure that there are significant statistical impacts on dating success esp. for online dating for men of certain heights

    I don’t care though bc I’m 5’11 and Built Different

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      COMPLETELY anecdotal but i’ve had much less success (solely in terms of quantity of matches) on Hinge (which forces you to list your height) vs Tinder (where I leave it unlisted), plus i’m more the stereotypical “hinge type” (sensitive softboy). it’s a thing on the apps IME but it’s some smoothbrain shit to blame individual women rather than patriarchal norms of attraction and beauty. and like yeah some of them on there are insensitive and dickish about it but that just filters someone you probably wouldn’t like? plus the apps incentivize all kinds of callous and inconsiderate shit.

      (fwiw i’m 5’6", shorter than the male average but taller than most women in the US).

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    As someone who is on the short side, if you’re just normal about it it’s fine. Same with having a small dick. Whatever actual problems these things cause in your life pale in comparison to what you can do to yourself with insecurity and jealousy

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    I’ll be honest, being a 5’1 guy in the US in the 2000’s was not the best experience and I’m sure I would have likely become an incel under the right circumstance. It’s been a lot better since coming back to Guatemala where i’m still below average but not by nearly as much.

    I’m a little sympathetic to shorter incels because it isn’t easy being a short man and many will find it socially acceptable to say nasty shit to your face. Look at how people respond to Ben Shapiro.

    It’s not even incels either. The trans male subreddit is full of them complaining about how it sucks being a short man because they don’t feel like “real men.”

    Also the “I only date men 6 feet and over” types exist and they tend to be shorter women in the 16-25 age range. That’s who I heard it from the most and they’d make sure I knew that even when I wasn’t showing any interest in them.