• over_clox@lemmy.world
    414·
    3 days ago

    Illegal AF to boobytrap things in the USA.

    Meanwhile, I’m not an officer nor a thief, so carry on if that’s what you wanna do to combat thieves…

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
      461·
      3 days ago

      The problem isn’t (just) that this might hurt would-be theives. It’s that it harms indiscriminately for anyone that tries to lift the item. There are any number of reasons that someone may legally and in good faith try to lift your cooler. Including but not limited to:

      -Your cooler fell off your boat, and someone was retrieving it for you.

      -Someone thought you stole their cooler and they were lifting it up to look for identifying marks or a name/label/sticker to verify.

      -They were a guest that you forgot to warn or who forgot the warning.

      -They’re a law enforcement officer preforming a warranted search of your boat.

      -They’re a first responder trying to move the cooler to make space to resuscitate someone.

      And even if none of that were the case, defense of property must be reasonable and proportional, and never outways human life. Injuries like this can leave someone with permanent impairment to the use of and feeling in their hands. It can also be a serious risk of infection that can kill someone. None of that is acceptable just to protect your Yeti cooler, my dudes, particularly when less injurious means of protecting your property, like storing it, tethering it, or using technology like a trip switch, alarm, motion sensing lights or a camera are options as well. Is it OK to steal? No. It’s it okay to maim indiscriminately to prevent theft? Also no.

      • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        211·
        3 days ago

        It’s nice to see Lemmy will be continuing Reddit’s tradition of believing booby traps are ok because anyone trying to touching your precious things deserves the be physically hurt, regardless of the countless ways it can hurt other people who were doing nothing wrong.

        This example isn’t even defendable from a home defense angle because you left the thing out on the damn boat, not locked away. At that point it’s not just a booby trap, it’s a baited trap.

        And for fucks sake it’s a damn cooler, who cares this much about it but leave it where anyone can get it?

        • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
          10·
          3 days ago

          Especially people in the US seem to have a weird violence boner. It’s (unfortunately) perfectly normal that some people like violence, but over there, a concerning percentage of people think that every minor transgression justifies violence.

          Look at the comments below those typical “fuck around and find out” videos. A guy snatches a hat as a bad joke and gets beaten up. That’s not okay, that’s assault, but the comments celebrate it.

          • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
            1·
            3 days ago

            A lot of it comes from the complete lack of faith that the US police services can/will do anything, and how incredibly poor most of the country is. Someone stealing parts from your car, which is stupidly common here, means you can wind up homeless in a month, easily.

            And there’s nothing you can really do to prevent it except beating the shit out of enough people that word gets out to not mess with your stuff (because padlocks are a joke). I don’t condone it, just a really high level summary of where it comes from.

            (Also american exceptionalism and extreme self-reliance are a big factor. Fucked up cultural shit we have here…)

  • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
    312·
    3 days ago

    You could also just put a fucking padlock on it like a sane human being.

    At this point, you’re not concerned with keeping your precious cooler, you’re just looking to hurt people.

        • Etterra@lemmy.world
          15·
          3 days ago

          They shouldn’t be. If the police can’t effectively detour crime, we shouldn’t have to rely on the 2nd amendment to protect our stuff - excuse me, defend ourselves.

      • owenfromcanada@lemmy.worldEnglish
        103·
        3 days ago

        And if someone picks it up in good faith? Trapping something that is locked away and could only be a theft attempt is one thing, but this is a cooler sitting out in the open. There are plenty of reasons a well-meaning person might pick it up.

        This isn’t reasonable theft detterent, this is sadism.

  • half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
    16·
    3 days ago

    Ah yes, legal eagle has a good video about the righteous chaotic good farmer protecting his abandoning abandoned farm house from some kids by setting up a shotgun trap.