If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing, something that could be a problem in an emergency. A common way to lose a violent encounter while carrying a gun is to fail to actually shoot your gun.
i have a massive counter for you. If you aren’t trained well enough to be able to disengage the safety when needed.
you probably shouldn’t be using a gun in an act of self defense
in case you haven’t picked up on what im saying you need to train
The amount of training is kinda-sorta irrelevant. The amount of training you should be putting in is way higher than the amount you need to master the safety. But, the amount of training you need to put in is also high enough that you won’t ever have to rely on the saftey to prevent the gun from firing. So for me, if I can handle the gun without having to rely on a safety, that’s just one less thing that could go wrong and prevent me from firing my gun when I want to.
A pistol can be carried so that either
the trigger is inaccessible
Or
The gun is in my hand
You also set up your draw-stroke so that there’s no risk of the trigger catching on anything. With those conditions, the only thing a safety would do is prevent you from pulling the trigger. You shouldn’t have your finger on the trigger unless you’ve made the decision to fire, so the safety isn’t adding any value.
The safety does have value on a rifle, where it’s harder to prevent things from hooking inside the trigger guard (since you will be carrying it uncontrolled with the trigger exposed) but a pistol doesn’t have the same manual of arms and, in my opinion, your carry gun shouldn’t have a safety.
The amount of training is kinda-sorta irrelevant. The amount of training you should be putting in is way higher than the amount you need to master the safety. But, the amount of training you need to put in is also high enough that you won’t ever have to rely on the saftey to prevent the gun from firing. So for me, if I can handle the gun without having to rely on a safety, that’s just one less thing that could go wrong and prevent me from firing my gun when I want to.
i guess so but i’d still just argue that you should be training with the safety, such that it’s so second nature to you, it literally wouldn’t matter whether it exists or not.
I think that’s a reasonable opinion. The safety argument is one of those things that is right on the line, so quite a lot of people fall on either side.
i could see it go either way, but i really just don’t think it’s that significant to the point where it matters enough to bother with.
Unless you’re using a competition pistol at a competition or something, in which case you could make the argument situationally and i would understand it, but generally, i’d much rather have a safety on my pistol than not, especially if conceal carrying for example.
See I think that carrying is the exact scenario that warrants not having a safety, while I find it acceptable (even desirable) to have a safety on a range or hunting gun.
yeah, matter of opinion i suppose, but personally, if i can’t deholster my pistol and remove the safety in a quick enough time chances are i’m not going to be trained well enough to be able to properly utilize it at that point. It’s all muscle memory at the end of the day, and if you don’t regularly train for it, you can’t use it when it needs to be used.
i have a massive counter for you. If you aren’t trained well enough to be able to disengage the safety when needed.
you probably shouldn’t be using a gun in an act of self defense
in case you haven’t picked up on what im saying you need to train
The amount of training is kinda-sorta irrelevant. The amount of training you should be putting in is way higher than the amount you need to master the safety. But, the amount of training you need to put in is also high enough that you won’t ever have to rely on the saftey to prevent the gun from firing. So for me, if I can handle the gun without having to rely on a safety, that’s just one less thing that could go wrong and prevent me from firing my gun when I want to.
A pistol can be carried so that either
Or
You also set up your draw-stroke so that there’s no risk of the trigger catching on anything. With those conditions, the only thing a safety would do is prevent you from pulling the trigger. You shouldn’t have your finger on the trigger unless you’ve made the decision to fire, so the safety isn’t adding any value.
The safety does have value on a rifle, where it’s harder to prevent things from hooking inside the trigger guard (since you will be carrying it uncontrolled with the trigger exposed) but a pistol doesn’t have the same manual of arms and, in my opinion, your carry gun shouldn’t have a safety.
i guess so but i’d still just argue that you should be training with the safety, such that it’s so second nature to you, it literally wouldn’t matter whether it exists or not.
I think that’s a reasonable opinion. The safety argument is one of those things that is right on the line, so quite a lot of people fall on either side.
i could see it go either way, but i really just don’t think it’s that significant to the point where it matters enough to bother with.
Unless you’re using a competition pistol at a competition or something, in which case you could make the argument situationally and i would understand it, but generally, i’d much rather have a safety on my pistol than not, especially if conceal carrying for example.
See I think that carrying is the exact scenario that warrants not having a safety, while I find it acceptable (even desirable) to have a safety on a range or hunting gun.
Opinions, opinions…
It’s been nice chatting anyhow.
yeah, matter of opinion i suppose, but personally, if i can’t deholster my pistol and remove the safety in a quick enough time chances are i’m not going to be trained well enough to be able to properly utilize it at that point. It’s all muscle memory at the end of the day, and if you don’t regularly train for it, you can’t use it when it needs to be used.
Likewise to you.