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      Uhm…yeah. Everybody is against gender affirming surgery for minors.

      Contrary to what right-wing media likes to claim, it doesn’t happen.

      What does happen for transgender youth is puberty blockers. That allows them to delay the hormonal changes of puberty so that they may make an easier physical transition, if they so choose, when they are an adult. In the meantime, trans girls can more easily tuck and won’t develop a 5 o’clock shadow or deep voice, trans boys will not be growing breasts or menstruating, and both retain more a more gender-ambiguous frame.

      But puberty blockers have other uses besides gender-affirming care, and they’ve long been proven incredibly safe and non-permanent.

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        While I can see that early intervention with puberty blockers would help transgirls, it seems like transboys would need to take something more than just testosterone to get the height growth, once they reach the age of majority. HGH, maybe?

        It’s interesting how much of the language around anti-trans rights centers around 'men pretending to be women, and they entirely forget about transmen.

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          I’m not a doctor, but my laymen understanding is that it doesn’t stop puberty, it just delays it. So they end up going through a normal puberty, just at a later age.

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      Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It’s difficult enough to get as an adult lmao

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      I think they’re vastly less than perfect and I don’t want any of this for Americans but I want outright fascism less.

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      Ever heard of Project 2025?

      It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”

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        its already happening my dude.

        child labour is already legalized in many states queer rights are slowly being eroded away already.

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          Yeah, and this is all because of republican footholds in those states and the supreme court. If that happened during a democrat presidency, then what do you think would happen with a republican presidency?

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            blah blah. its funny how democrats can never accomplish anything good, just bad shit blamed on republicans, but when its republicans on power nothing can ever stop them from fucking everything up.

            almost like the system itself is broken and electing a geriatric fascist is gonna fix nothing beyond the egos of people bothered by the other more crass fascist.

            nothing but a good cop bad cop routine when in reality all cops are bastards.

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              …my guy, Trump wants me fired from my job and then summarily shot. Vote for the guy that doesn’t want that if you care, please.

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                i went through similar here and it was the “progressive” one who made it happen. capital will have their way regardless.

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      Are we seriously using this as a wedge between one candidate or the other? I’d love to have full trans rights here like any other reasonable country but if the alternative is authoritarianism 2016 but with an actual plan this time then I’m not going to complain if I don’t get everything I want.

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        not a wedge. no wedge to be had if the current administration is already undermining it.

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          Okay, so you’re part of the all or nothing crowd. I’m glad the worst election year is being deluded by people that see things as only black or white. That is, if you’re not a troll. Either way, you’re doing Russia’s job for them and splintering the left further.

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            and you are part of the nothing or nothing crowd.

            i live somewhere with free healthcare and i cant believe anything less than that is acceptable and normalized to you, let alone the cruel system you have rn. but please tell me how cruelty and genocide is worth defending so hard.