WARWICKSHIRE, ENGLAND—Bray claimed that the sword was a “fidget” – something to keep his hands busy. He had bought it online as a fidget toy. On 8 June 2024, officers were made aware through CCTV operators of a man – Anthony Bray – walking down Queens Road, Nuneaton with something in his hand. Bray approached officers with the item in his hand visible, at which point he was arrested as he was carrying a bladed article.

Officers tried to explain to Bray that, despite its intended purpose, it was in fact a sharply pointed item which could be used as a weapon and might put others in fear of it being used against them.

In addition to the four months in prison, Bray is required to pay a victims’ surcharge of £154.

Sgt Spellman of the Patrol Investigations Unit said “We take a zero tolerance to bladed articles in public, and Bray has fallen afoul of this.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/07/03/zelda-master-sword-gets-man-4-months-prison-time-but-theres-more-to-the-story/:

What’s missing from every report about this I could find, and what is so crucial to understanding this story, however is that Anthony Bray is a repeat offender with a long rap sheet and numerous prison sentences, several of which were for burglary including serial burglary. In 2011, Bray was convicted and sentenced to four years in prison after getting “three strikes” for burgling residences. But his run-ins with the law go back to 1989 and he was in court numerous times throughout the 90s as well.

The last wrinkle to this story is the very real problem with knife violence in the UK. Warwickshire is in the Midlands where knife violence is higher than any other region, higher even than in London. There were 5,234 knife offenses in the region in 2023 alone including a number of murders. Perhaps it is through this lens that we should view the arrest and prison sentence of Anthony Bray.

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    “It is possible to find fidget toys that aren’t six-inch blades. It is possible not to walk down the street holding them out in front of you.

    “With a bit more self-awareness, Bray could have avoided contact with us completely.”

    Yeah, fair enough.

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    Man arrested for walking down street with sword has been sentenced.

    Is it meant to be oniony because it is a video game sword?

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        It’s interesting you are saying it’s 6" like that’s not a bad thing when the law in the UK is no longer than 3".

        I guess if it is plastic the sentence seems a bit harsh, but you would also get in trouble for a plastic replica gun that looked realistic. Seems like he has plenty of priors which is probably more the issue.

        All in all, not oniony.

        EDIT: It doesn’t seem plastic

        Important to note that this wasn’t just a prop. The blade was sharp.

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          Yeah, 6” is basically a kitchen knife. I carry a fairly large pocket knife by most standards, (a Smith & Wesson Black Ops 3) but it’s only 3.25 inches long. That 6” blade (plus the hilt) isn’t something you’re going to be able to fit into your pocket, and I certainly wouldn’t consider carrying one around on a day-to-day basis. It’s fine as a novelty letter opener, but it should stay at your desk.

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            Nobody said it is, but stopping people walking down the street with literal swords is probably helping.

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                  O I completely understand that, it’s not really an issue. My point is that prohibition doesn’t work on humans, people will be violent with or without tools to do violence. Education and social support is the best way to decrease violence, not trying to continuously remove the next weapon people create or use.

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    Being guilty of burglary in the past doesn’t make him more likely to attack people now.

    Living in a huge region of the country with a high rate of knife crime doesn’t make one specific person more of a threat.

    Okay, it’s illegal to walk down the street waving a knife around, that’s fine. But the bit on the end is fucking bullshit.

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      I agree with your second point, but the first one is plain bullshit.

      That’s like saying someone who’s had history making violent threat is not more likely to commit violence than other people.

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      Not very populated in comparison though. If you take Birmingham, it’s got around 1.5m people. London / Greater London has around 8m / 12m. So higher instances are noteworthy.

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          It does though. If you have massive amounts of knife crime, the context makes sense. If there is none and one person does it, it’s all about the person.

          Either way, walking publicly with a big sword claiming it’s a fidget spinner substitute is BS.

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            So to be clear, you’re fine with guilt by association.

            Specifically, association with 11,000 square miles of land.

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              Many studies have looked into this, culture etc. For example how people conducted themselves in say Nazi Germany or during the Rwandan genocide.

              Simply trying to understand how so many folk can commit such atrocities.

              Knife crime is viewed differently in areas with high amounts of it. It’s more shocking in an area it doesn’t exist. In an area where folk growing up knowing or seeing people being stabbed, it’s seen very differently.

              I don’t think juries should necessarily take it into consideration, but understanding situations, it’s quite relevant. If you’ve stepped into both poor and rich areas, you’ll understand the differences.

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                  Fair point, and no on the last point. Legalise weed, tackle gangs and help addicts get the help they need. Punishment doesn’t always work on crime. Without some element of reform.

                  Of course knife crime is pretty high here and if anything, police are a little weak on it and it has got out of control because jails are too full.

                  In some parts of the UK, it is genuinely scary to walk around and even looking at some young folk wrong is the best way to end up in an ambulance.

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      Maybe, but all the offenses made police think something was up, the merits of that aside.

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    Say what you will about it but I really like living in America, this is horse shit for sure. What a stupid nanny ass country.

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        Ok, and I don’t see the problem. Literally less dangerous than a sharpened pencil. It ha s a toothpick sized half inch long handle. Where I live there’s no real restrictions on knives. The thought of 4 months for possession ofa tiny toy knife that’s probably metallized plastic or garbage pot metal is absurd.

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          Literally less dangerous than a sharpened pencil.

          It’s a knife. 6 inches is by no means tiny and enough to kill in one sweep. It’s bigger than the typical fruit knife.

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            It’s a sword shaped toy with no real handle. 4 months is stupid as fuck.

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    American here. We have problems with our police too, but I’ll Britishize the language for you.

    “Ya! The pigs are a bunch of right cunts, innit?”