For pointing out that the mentioned operation has absolutely nothing to do with the mentioned issue - the US’s supposed ideological embrace of fascism post-WW2?
“What about the fact that your point is completely irrelevant” isn’t quite the usual definition of “Whataboutism”, but you do you.
I didn’t say anything about any “ideological embrace” operation paperclip shows that the US’ supposed anti-fascist ideology wasn’t quite as thorough as you make it seem.
The stuff about the civil rights movement was the whataboutism part.
I didn’t say anything about any “ideological embrace”
Oh, okay, so you’re walking back your prior claims. Cool. Glad we’re in agreement that claiming the US as fascist or ‘fascist-adjacent’ post-WW2 is ridiculous.
operation paperclip shows that the US’ supposed anti-fascist ideology wasn’t quite as thorough as you make it seem.
“Abducting specialists is fascism, and the more specialists you abduct, the more fascism it is”
The stuff about the civil rights movement was the whataboutism part.
“No, you CANNOT use examples of increasing liberalism in the US to counter claims of fascism in the US, that’s whataboutism”
I love how you pretend that a huge portion of the US didn’t support and continue to support fascism and Nazis.
Would you like to remind me about the support carried by the German-American Bund and the Silver Shirts, and compare that to literally any other political group in the US at the time?
(PROTIP: combined, they didn’t even have a tenth of the membership of the CPUSA, which, itself, was a minor player in American politics of the period)
“Abducting specialists is fascism, and the more specialists you abduct, the more fascism it is”
Yeah. The high ranking Nazis recruited in operations Paperclip and Bloodstone which went on to enjoy comfortable lives and retirements in the US were “abducted”, sure. /s
Now that’s what I call whataboutism.
For pointing out that the mentioned operation has absolutely nothing to do with the mentioned issue - the US’s supposed ideological embrace of fascism post-WW2?
“What about the fact that your point is completely irrelevant” isn’t quite the usual definition of “Whataboutism”, but you do you.
I didn’t say anything about any “ideological embrace” operation paperclip shows that the US’ supposed anti-fascist ideology wasn’t quite as thorough as you make it seem.
The stuff about the civil rights movement was the whataboutism part.
Oh, okay, so you’re walking back your prior claims. Cool. Glad we’re in agreement that claiming the US as fascist or ‘fascist-adjacent’ post-WW2 is ridiculous.
“Abducting specialists is fascism, and the more specialists you abduct, the more fascism it is”
“No, you CANNOT use examples of increasing liberalism in the US to counter claims of fascism in the US, that’s whataboutism”
Okay, buddy. You have fun with that.
Wow dude you missed the point entirely.
I love how you pretend that a huge portion of the US didn’t support and continue to support fascism and Nazis.
I mean you’re peak willful ignorance and obtuse.
Would you like to remind me about the support carried by the German-American Bund and the Silver Shirts, and compare that to literally any other political group in the US at the time?
(PROTIP: combined, they didn’t even have a tenth of the membership of the CPUSA, which, itself, was a minor player in American politics of the period)
Yeah. The high ranking Nazis recruited in operations Paperclip and Bloodstone which went on to enjoy comfortable lives and retirements in the US were “abducted”, sure. /s