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According to one journalist’s tally, the New York Times has run 192 stories on the subject since the debate, including 50 editorials and 142 news stories. The Washington Post, which has also gone for saturation coverage, published a resignation speech they wrote for him. Not to be outdone, the New Yorker’s editor-in-chief declared that Biden not going away “would be an act not only of self-delusion but of national endangerment” and had a staff writer suggest that Democrats should use the never-before-deployed 25th amendment.
Although the Biden administration seems to have run extremely well for three and a half years, with a strong cabinet, few scandals and little turnover, a thriving economy and some major legislative accomplishments, the narrative the punditocracy has created suggest we should ignore this record and decide on the basis of the 90-minute debate and reference to newly surfaced swarms of anonymous sources that Biden is incompetent. Quite a lot of them have been running magical-realism fantasy-football scenarios in which it is fun and easy to swap in your favorite substitute candidate. The reality is that it is hard and quite likely to be a terrible mess. Nevertheless, this pretense is supposed to mean that telling a presidential candidate in mid-campaign to get lost is fine.
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Yeah, I can’t take any of those pundits (or Lemmings) seriously when they’re making those claims. It’s already a chaotic election, and that would introduce a whole new level of chaos 3 months before it. For the right wingers, it makes sense to be sowing that kind of chaos. For our side to be joining in is absolute insanity.
Also, the fantasy football comparison is spot on.
Like, Biden’s the incumbent and candidate. Deal with it. If he’s unable to perform his duties for whatever reason, we have a procedure for that (and for those fantasy football pundits, you’ll get your President Harris).
Surely some Biden naysayers are Republican ops, and some are lifelong Biden-haters like myself. But look at the state of the race: Biden is losing horribly.
If you think democracy is on the line, if you’re afraid of fascism and project 2025, then how can you continue to support a candidate that is almost sure to lose? Biden needs to pull off the biggest comeback in modern political history, yet he can’t form a coherent sentence.
Yes, I hate Kamala too. And yes, changing candidates would be chaotic. But at least with Kamala we would have a chance to stop Trump.
Why do you hate Biden and Kamala?
Biden has been on the wrong side of almost every political issue in his career. I don’t want to write a full essay so I’ll just name a few.
His political achievements include championing the brutal, racist crime bill; making student loan debt undischargable even in bankruptcy, and fighting against the public option.
Once when I worked at a credit card company, and it confused me that every bank in this nation had the same address for their billing dept- Wilmington, Delaware. I learned later that this was largely because “the Senator from MBNA”, as Joe Biden was once known, was the most corrupt pro-corporate Democrat. Reducing the tax and regulatory burden on corporations is a race to the bottom. Biden won this corrupt race, and walked away with pockets full of
bribescampaign contributions.Later in life I went through a medical bankruptcy, but I still have my student loans thanks to Biden.
And now, whether due to dementia or Zionist fervor, Biden has gone further than other rightwing warmongers like Reagan and HW Bush in allowing Israel to do whatever it pleases with US weapons. Biden circumvents US law to send weapons to Israel, and he addresses the nation to spread false Israeli propaganda. Remember when Biden said, multiple times, that he saw “pictures of 40 beheaded babies”? I can’t get over how disgusting that lie is. How can anyone with even a shred of morality lie to the entire nation like that…
Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide. If the Nuremburg laws applied to US presidents, he would be found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
As for Kamala, I hate her for her faux progressivism and because she is a cop. When she started her primary run, her policy platform was center-left; she was trying to be a milquetoast Bernie Sanders. When this failed, she adopted the center-right mainstream democratic party platform (and failed again). This demonstrates to me that she is not dedicated to policy or ideals, and will instead always shift with the political winds.
Okay, I’m not going to argue with you, you seem to have made up your mind. Why do you hate Trump?
I’m happy to hear any pushback or argument.
As for your question, when I think of all the ways the United States is evil: militarism and neverending war, economic imperialism, racism and xenophobia, corporatism and the rotting “middle class”, obsession with weaponry, a lack of critical thinking; all of these are fascist traits. Donald Trump embodies each one of these traits. He is a fascist.
Fascism is the most destructive and evil ideology in the modern world. In my opinion, if a fascist dictatorship ever gains control of America, the human species will go extinct.
Trump has some mitigating factors: he is an idiot, and he is motivated by narcissism. If he were instead a competent ideologue things would look significantly worse. But even with those mitigating factors, I believe he is the most dangerous politician of my lifetime, perhaps the most dangerous in the history of America.
The only pushback I’m going to say on Biden is, you’re being kind of naive with politics. You don’t get to be the POTUS and still be a saint, it’s just not possible (unless you’re Jimmy Carter, but he was placed there because of Nixon and got pushed out for being a saint easily). You have to negotiate with terrorists or you can’t do the job.
In Isreal’s case, they are our allies first of all, that is something every POTUS usually takes into consideration. Also, they probably gave him a shit ton of money. He is beholden to the money class. Every single POTUS is, that’s just how it is and probably always will be in America.
IMO, Biden is taking the times we live in (so many fucking racists, anti LGBTQ+ and xenophobes) and also trying to get the most done at the same time. He’s doing this all while keeping his money train coming. It’s a balancing act that makes me wonder who tf would ever want that job.
When I say I believe in Biden, it’s not that he’s perfect, he is so far from it. I only trust that his overall intention is to get the most done for the country that he can while our country is being taken over by fascists. That’s it. He’s already proven he can do it, or at least his staff can. I stand by him.
I would love a Bernie type in office, I just don’t think the owner class would ever let that happen. You have to stand by the best that you can get at the time you’re in.
Thanks for your thoughtful response.
You’re right that Biden has taken tons of bribes from Israel. AIPAC has directly given him a record-breaking $5 million dollars, and that doesn’t count all of the dark money.
For my defense, I dont think I am being naive- I think I have a relatively clear eyed and nuanced view of the US political system. What I am, however, is an idealist. I cling desperately to idealism like it’s a life raft in a sea of evil.
I’m not asking for sainthood, but each president in my lifetime has the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent humans on his hands. If each US leader continues to be a mini-Hitler, I will not support any of them. And if this is truly the only outcome possible for the US system, then the only moral choice is to destroy the US system.
I find inspiration in the words of Aaron Bushnell, shortly before his heroic self-immolation in protest of the ongoing Israeli genocide:
Many of us like to ask ourselves, ‘What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?’ The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now.
Maybe it has something to do with recent memory of RBG desperately holding on to power that eventually screwed over the country?
That was a different situation? If Biden dies, Harris goes in. When RBG died, she left a hole for the republicans to fill.
I didn’t say anything about dying. Both were/are being selfish and not putting the greater good ahead of their own personal ambitions.
I disagree, I think Biden only ran because he knew how the system worked and he had the best chance to win.
- Trustworthy
- Father figure
- Loves his family
- Has pulled us out of the pandemic nightmare
- Started many policies that were actually for the people.
- Been in politics a long time so he knows, and has proven, how to get around major obstacles.
- The opposite of trump
He wouldn’t run if he knew he didn’t have a chance. They’re not stupid, they know how to read the public. I trust his people alone, he put in a great staff that’s close to him. As I said elsewhere, even if he’s not 100%, I’d take him and his staff 1000x over the POS trump. Any other option at this point would probably accidentally get trump in because of lack of knowledge of how the system works. Why do you think the trumpers are going so hard for Biden to step down? Because the know he’s got the best chance at winning.
Ask yourself, how did Trump do at the debate? What have you heard?
