• Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Google to users: “I’M GOING TO STEAL ALL YOUR INFORMATION!”

    Google: steals users information

    Users: shocked pikachu face

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      Indeed. I’m trying to figure out how “quietly” makes any sense in that headline. Google has been very public about what they’re doing, and has usually published their proposed actions months in advance of actually taking them.

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        It probably is intended to indicate that Google’s software doesn’t have a notice anywhere it’s sending this data that a normal human could reasonably find.

        There’s a lot of ‘Data we collect’ stuff on sites and software now, and I’m entirely sure I’ve never seen this on any browser using Google’s code for this.

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          This also says “chromium browsers”, so maybe people who are using some other one than actual Google Chrome have not known and/or not been told of the collection happening.

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            Yeah, I’m entirely sure it’s upstream of Chrome proper, and kinda consolidates my opinion that anything Google is near should be treated as suspect.

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              Cut it all off!!

              well besides spytube… can’t really cut that off yet…

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              5 months ago

              I would hope Google free Chromium doesn’t but who knows.

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    Dear everyone. Chromium Browser does not just mean chrome.

    It means Edge, Brave, Opera, and virtually every other browser you’ve ever heard of but Firefox and Safari.

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      You act like this has not been a decade long “argument”

      Yeah anyone doing critical thinking caught with this fact mid 2010s but normie core still in the trust me bro stage, even if mega corps are spying, they got nothing to hide anyway

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    Wut!!! A browser engine made by Google have been sending user data to Google? What a surprise

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      Firefox sends information to Mozilla too.

      Oh fucking christ this again.

      No, they send general telemetry by default. Which is one toggle to disable. They don’t continue to send information back after that point, and certainly not to the same degree that chrome does AFTER you disable it in chrome. So saying “Mozilla too” in the same context of Chrome is stupidly disingenuous.

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          Simply not true.

          No, it is true.

          Making connections to mozilla != collecting boatload of telemetry. Every function in that page is to download FULL lists of information. Not specific tracking items. You don’t gain a whole lot of telemetry/metadata on someone who downloads a new blocklist. Rather that say someone who checks a specific domain on a blocklist. further, the vast majority of things (virtually all of it) is configurable in toggles. And many options in here don’t even send mozilla anything at all (prefetching for example.)

          Automatic connections != sending mozilla all your tracking information.

          Chrome/Chromium isn’t evil either.

          Hiding plugins that give google your hardware information when you visit any google domain without consent is pretty fucking evil.

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              The hidden plugins I’m talking about are BUILT INTO CHROMIUM.

              https://community.brave.com/t/hidden-extensions-in-chromium-source/557645

              Chromium based browsers (brave as an example linked above) ALSO had them present. It was only due to the new of this being a thing recently that brave (and probably others) made it disable-able (https://github.com/brave/brave-core/pull/24583 5 days ago).

              Screaming “it’s open source” means nothing if nobody ever reviewed the code, and disabled the google spyware shit that they put into chromium to begin with. Remember the Chromium is still a google product.

              I’d rather just Mozilla… You know… since they didn’t try to fuck me out the gate. I can accept “On by default, but we ask you during setup and you can access the setting at anytime” vs “Fuck you, you turned off all the telemetry but can’t reach the hidden add-ons we install without recompiling your own browser”. The mentality matters. I can trust the former to not screw me a bit more vs the latter rapist mentality.