From what I read before, it seems like they’re at least anonymizing data, but as soon as I read that they’re working with Meta to standardize the approach, I winced hard. You can opt out of it at least.
Don’t think it’s with Meta directly, but ex-meta folks now working as Anonym, which Mozilla recently acquired. I’ll check the announcement and docs again later, just in case I misread. I fully support criticizing dubious software and decisions, but I believe we need to do it properly, otherwise it’s just noise.
Edit: really sorry folks, I got things mixed up.
For the last few months we have been working with a team from Meta (formerly Facebook) source - mozilla blog
But searching this did lead me to find out this is done in partnership with the ISRG
Which is sponsored and partly led by the EFF—haven’t seen these folks miss horribly yet, though feel free to point out an example.
…I almost made a lengthy argument here, but it wouldn’t be directed at anyone in this thread. Bit tired. My point is, lots of folks whose work I respect (even if begrudgingly) involved in this. I want to give it serious consideration, not throw it away because “fake privacy feature.” If it works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock.
Doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing uBlock on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.
Mozilla is a little different too. They’ve been around for a long time and I get the vibe at least most of the folks there believe in something. They’re also are struggling to strike a balance between keeping the doors open, and not becoming a terrible monster like Google and Meta have become. I’ve been using their stuff for a long time.
Yeah, a hardline stance was never one of their core values. Every year I wonder, a little more unsure of my past ideals, if perhaps their balanced approach isn’t the more effective one in terms of actually getting things done and making the internet slightly better than it would’ve been otherwise.
I do wish we had more browsers, though. Shame about Ladybird.
I get your point, but also: Moz. acquired pocket and there’s still a flag to disable it. Almost every other privacy-affecting feature has either intuitive settings or about:config flags.
This feels like an unfounded, or at least overblown, fear.
Not that I appreciate pocket being integrated in the first place, but still.
From what I read before, it seems like they’re at least anonymizing data, but as soon as I read that they’re working with Meta to standardize the approach, I winced hard. You can opt out of it at least.
Don’t think it’s with Meta directly, but ex-meta folks now working as Anonym, which Mozilla recently acquired. I’ll check the announcement and docs again later, just in case I misread. I fully support criticizing dubious software and decisions, but I believe we need to do it properly, otherwise it’s just noise.
Edit: really sorry folks, I got things mixed up.
But searching this did lead me to find out this is done in partnership with the ISRG
Which is sponsored and partly led by the EFF—haven’t seen these folks miss horribly yet, though feel free to point out an example.
…I almost made a lengthy argument here, but it wouldn’t be directed at anyone in this thread. Bit tired. My point is, lots of folks whose work I respect (even if begrudgingly) involved in this. I want to give it serious consideration, not throw it away because “fake privacy feature.” If it works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock.
Doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing uBlock on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.
Mozilla is a little different too. They’ve been around for a long time and I get the vibe at least most of the folks there believe in something. They’re also are struggling to strike a balance between keeping the doors open, and not becoming a terrible monster like Google and Meta have become. I’ve been using their stuff for a long time.
Yeah, a hardline stance was never one of their core values. Every year I wonder, a little more unsure of my past ideals, if perhaps their balanced approach isn’t the more effective one in terms of actually getting things done and making the internet slightly better than it would’ve been otherwise.
I do wish we had more browsers, though. Shame about Ladybird.
For now.
I get your point, but also: Moz. acquired pocket and there’s still a flag to disable it. Almost every other privacy-affecting feature has either intuitive settings or about:config flags.
This feels like an unfounded, or at least overblown, fear.
Not that I appreciate pocket being integrated in the first place, but still.