One can have issues with Stalinism/Leninism without resorting to name calling. I don’t disagree with much of your reply. My issue is with the hate. Lenin and Stalin were trying to advance socialism as best they could. You can disagree with how they did it, but we have to acknowledge their efforts. No departure from capitalism will be perfect. Marxist Leninists are trying to break from capitalism. They are allys. The hate I see for them from centrists, liberals and socdems is counterproductive. It cuts a huge group out of the discussion on how to achieve post-capitalism. Infighting only furthers capitalist hegemony. Surely you are not a slow kid and can see that. What if Anarchist called you, a SocDem, a “Revisionist.” Or if the SocDems called Trotskyists “utopian.”
Stalin was a drunken ass who was fucking insane, and oversaw the murder of anyone smarter than himself.
He did nothing to advance communism, he only advanced his own power, and his liquor bill.
The man was no one’s ally, and worked hand in hand with Hitler to split Europe, until Hitler betrayed him.
Lenin was a murder happy fool, who may have started in a good place, but consolidated power to himself in a way antithetical to true communism. He set himself up as a fuck lord over his people and then died so that Stalin could move in. He also oversaw the death of a true communist movement, the anarchist communists of Ukraine. He had his Red Army kill everyone involved.
Just like Stalin did in Hungary a few decades later.
And that’s the problem with you tankies, you worship monsters who betrayed the dream, and then cheer on the people who are still betraying it.
Because the tankies will never support a true communist country with a functional democracy, they would rather burn that to the ground so that their authoritarian masters can pretend to be communist, because some animals are more equal than others.
One can have issues with Stalinism/Leninism without resorting to name calling. I don’t disagree with much of your reply. My issue is with the hate. Lenin and Stalin were trying to advance socialism as best they could. You can disagree with how they did it, but we have to acknowledge their efforts. No departure from capitalism will be perfect. Marxist Leninists are trying to break from capitalism. They are allys. The hate I see for them from centrists, liberals and socdems is counterproductive. It cuts a huge group out of the discussion on how to achieve post-capitalism. Infighting only furthers capitalist hegemony. Surely you are not a slow kid and can see that. What if Anarchist called you, a SocDem, a “Revisionist.” Or if the SocDems called Trotskyists “utopian.”
Stalin was a drunken ass who was fucking insane, and oversaw the murder of anyone smarter than himself.
He did nothing to advance communism, he only advanced his own power, and his liquor bill.
The man was no one’s ally, and worked hand in hand with Hitler to split Europe, until Hitler betrayed him.
Lenin was a murder happy fool, who may have started in a good place, but consolidated power to himself in a way antithetical to true communism. He set himself up as a fuck lord over his people and then died so that Stalin could move in. He also oversaw the death of a true communist movement, the anarchist communists of Ukraine. He had his Red Army kill everyone involved.
Just like Stalin did in Hungary a few decades later.
And that’s the problem with you tankies, you worship monsters who betrayed the dream, and then cheer on the people who are still betraying it.
Because the tankies will never support a true communist country with a functional democracy, they would rather burn that to the ground so that their authoritarian masters can pretend to be communist, because some animals are more equal than others.
You make some good arguments against Leninism. Maybe use those instead of “tankie.” I’m not a Marxist Leninist.