• I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    In USAland, a tip is an extra pay on top of whatever you paid for, which is supposed to go straight to the worker that served you. They expect tips because their salaries are criminally low and “it makes people work better”

    • Liz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      2 months ago

      Wait, but why doesn’t the business just pay them better?

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 months ago

        They don’t have to, legally. Some asshole managed to convince Congress that all restaurants would go out of business if they had to pay minimum wage back in the 1930s when minimum wage was set up. Because of said cheap rich asshole, there is a normal minimum wage which is $7.25/hr, and a service minimum wage which is $2.13/hr.

        In theory the restaurant is supposed to ensure that you make at least minimum wage. In practice they just fire you if you dare to ask for minimum compensation.

        Does not apply in California, Massachusetts, or NY, that I am aware of

        • Liz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          Wait, but if I tip, wouldn’t it just be the same as if the business charged more and paid their employees properly?

          • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            Well yes, but then they’d have to pay their employees out of their money, instead of relying on the kindness of their customers.

            • Liz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              But isn’t that what they’re supposed to do?

              • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                2 months ago

                Ahh, I see the confusion. This is the US where you do anything you can to screw others out of money so maybe you can retire about 30 minutes before you die.

                • Liz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  2 months ago

                  Oh I see, so then I shouldn’t tip. Got it.

        • Gestrid@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          there is a normal minimum wage which is $7.25/hr

          Just a note on this: while federal minimum wage is actually that low, many states individually set much higher minimum wages.

        • Liz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          deleted by creator

        • Liz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          deleted by creator

        • Liz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          deleted by creator