cross-posted from: https://awful.systems/post/1965658

Kind of sharing this because the headline is a little sensationalist and makes it sound like MS is hard right (they are, but not like this) and anti-EU.

I mean, they probably are! Especially if it means MS is barred from monopolies and vertical integration.

  • connaisseur@feddit.orgEnglish
    592·
    3 months ago

    Soooo… EU is responsible to write Crowdstrike code with bugs that gets deployed without any QA? Interesting. And EU is directing rules for the rest of the world as well, where the same issue happened as within EU? This is populist bullshit in full swing.

    • KasimirDD@feddit.orgEnglish
      451·
      3 months ago

      As far as I understand it, the EU is to blame because it forced Microsoft to open up the Windows kernel for software such as Crowdstrike’s. Why the Linux kernel has protection against precisely the flaw that has occurred and the Windows kernel does not, however, remains MS’s secret.

      • connaisseur@feddit.orgEnglish
        30·
        3 months ago

        The regulation only states that there must be a level playing field with respect to API access and possibilities in comparison for Microsoft tools and 3rd party tools. The regulation does not state that the APIs have to be inherently insecure and unstable if used in a wrong way, which is what happened. Crowdstrike released a buggy update that crashed their own driver, which is just showing how bad their software as a whole really is.

      • misk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        Linux has the same issue and was also affected by Crowdstrike earlier this year.

        • KasimirDD@feddit.orgEnglish
          10·
          3 months ago

          I know, but someone (KP Singh, I think?) already provided a fix for this. In the end, it’s not about any system being error-free, but about how these errors are dealt with. Crowdstrike screwed up and Microsoft could have fixed this vulnerability after the Linux kernel incident. Maybe. But now pointing the finger at an uninvolved third party is just PR.

  • TheBronko@lemmy.worldEnglish
    411·
    3 months ago

    The EU is not responsible for the QA failure of the market. Does Microsoft employ lunatics that do not recognise the reality?

  • misk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    291·
    3 months ago

    All that EU mandates is equal access to system features by the competitors.

    What Microsoft is saying is that they would never fuck up like Crowdstrike did. That’s bullshit - they are human too and need security enforced at an architectural level. The other thing that Microsoft is saying is that they could not prevent this. That’s also bullshit because others did.

    Windows and Linux allow third party apps to run at kernel / driver level and consequences of that are on those operating systems. It wasn’t even the first time this happened. Crowdstrike was responsible for similar issue on Linux earlier this year and it was also caused by a kernel module crash.

    Apple doesn’t allow kernel / driver level access for apps and replaced those with API few years ago. It’s no coincidence Crowdstrike didn’t manage to break MacOS so far. There’s nothing stopping Microsoft from implementing something similar.

    Obviously Crowdstrike is at fault here but so is Microsoft.

    • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      3 months ago

      This whole story is just PR bullshit and spin by Microsoft.

      They’re trying to draw attention away from the major problem: that they are a monopoly and with Crowdstrike they’re forming a duopoly for their customerbase which has caused great over reliance and vulnerability in global systems and services.

      Microsoft are trying to preempt the solution to this problem - opening up access further for competitors so companies have viable choices for cloud based platforms and services if they use Microsoft windows.

      The problem was not that Microsoft has to give access so competitors are able to develop security products. Its that anti-competitive behaviour has caused homogenous systems for big companies allowing a point failure that has caused massive financial damage.

      MacOS is not really relevant in this - this is about cloud services and platforms so Microsoft, Amazon and Google.

      • misk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        MacOS is relevant to this specific issue. It’s an example of an OS that mitigated risk in a way that would be compliant with EU requirements Microsoft is blaming this on.

  • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    3 months ago

    Yet, faulty drivers crapoing your bed without a way for IT remotely being able to access the pc isnkinda your fault, they could have done that with zero EU violations…