- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
For context, it’s the elite media types who are pushing for some sort of contested convention — not the bulk of the Democratic voters.
For context, it’s the elite media types who are pushing for some sort of contested convention — not the bulk of the Democratic voters.
Not sure what you think the DNC was expected to do. Biden didn’t want to step down. What, is the party supposed to run in opposition to the sitting president? Not going to fucking happen. As long as he wanted to stay in the race, he was going to get the nomination, even with his polling numbers looking increasingly bad.
So now, he finally gets convinced to step down, and it’s only like a week and a half before the convention vote. What, you expect them to run a whole new primary?
I get that you’re frustrated, but the DNC isn’t the bad guy here. Let me reiterate that: as someone who caucused for Bernie Sanders in 2016, and was incredibly angry about what the DNC did to him, I am saying that the DNC isn’t the bad guy here.
If the DNC had gone against Biden, “Turmoil Within The Democratic Party” would be the headline on every single news organization’s chyrons for weeks. They figured that going with the weak candidate would be better than blowing everything up by picking a fight before the election. They were not wrong. As long as Biden decided to remain in the race, the best thing for them to do was to support him.
Biden endorsed Harris, you dummy. She wasn’t some random nobody that the DNC just foisted onto the country. She’s the fucking VP. With the fact that it was late in the election cycle (way too late for a primary), added to the fact that she’s able to take credit for all of Biden’s accomplishments (because she is the VP), added to the fact that all of the funds raised for the Biden / Harris campaign can now be used by Harris, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT THE DNC TO DO???
Seriously, I don’t understand why your ass is chapped in the first place, nor do I understand why you think it’s somehow the DNC’s fault.
Find a Democratic solution maybe? Run an actual primary with debates in the first place? An open convention? Allow challengers on the ballet consistently? Not work behind the scenes to push Biden on everyone in 2020 and beyond.
If you dont understand why someone is disillusioned with the “choices” in this upcoming election you have bigger problems than all that impotent rage on display in your reply.
Tired of shills and sycophants crying about optics and putting these power hungry parties above values and real issues. Average Americans have to choose between paying rent and eating. Cant afford a doctor. Have to work 3 jobs constantly worrying about the future of the planet.
If dems want to win they have to win on issues. Blue no matter who may be popular with you, but it doesn’t resonate with the general public, leftists, people who cant make ends meet. Dont let your fear let you lose sight of the issues.
What the fuck are you even talking about, man? Did the DNC “run an actual primary with debates” in 2012, when Obama was the incumbent? Did they run “an open convention”? Did they “allow challengers on the ballot consistently”, whatever the fuck that means?
Or did they accept that he was the fucking incumbent, and rally behind him? If you’re unsure, let me clear it up for you: they rallied behind him because he was the fucking incumbent.
The same exact thing happened with Joe Biden. That’s not party corruption. That’s just the way it fucking works.
I really don’t understand why you are disillusioned. I’m guessing it’s because you are completely blind to historical realities, and woefully uninformed about how elections work. Maybe it’s because you’re a complete god damned moron. I’m honestly not sure. I would be going out on a limb speculating, so I’m not going to do that here.
Blah blah blah. Let me recap for you: you’re whining because an incredibly weak candidate stepped aside for probably the single best candidate the DNC can field to take over. If you’re actually a Democrat voter, what the fuck are you whining about, man? Biden stepping aside just won you the election.
Oh damn nobody has ever condescended to me quite like that before. You must be a political genius and you changed my mind by being a needles prick on the internet. If you’re sure the election is won then copmala doesn’t need my vote after all and you can calm down.
Well, I’m incredibly flattered that I’m the only one in your life that has ever managed to point reality out to you. Or, at the very least, I’m the only one who has gotten you to acknowledge reality.
Biden’s been facing a funding shortage for 2 months now. He blamed the shortage on it being summer. Seriously.
Harris got the nod 2 days ago, and has already gotten like $120 million in funding, and an additional $150 million in pledges to her PAC. Additionally, more than 40,000 people have registered to vote in the past 48 hours.
So, seriously, what the actual fuck are you whining about? You traded in a broken-down old cart horse for a fucking stallion. And your bitch ass is whining about it.
There’s that holier than thou lib hubris that wins the hearts and minds of Americans. Just ask Hillary. Keep fighting the fight once every four years, I guess.
Like, I don’t give a fuck anymore. I don’t know what you’re trying to prove. I’m not going to try to convince you to vote for Harris. Honestly, I’d rather you suck on an exhaust pipe. But that’s neither here nor there. Your assertions that the DNC is doing something wrong are completely unfounded in reality, and your whining about Biden stepping down means that you either really wanted the Democrats to lose, or you have zero idea about what his actual chances are. So you’re either a shill, or a complete fucking moron. Either way, I have zero interest in continuing talking to you.
Finally some common ground.