• dactylotheca@suppo.fi
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    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, but I think it’s just beyond incredible that conservatives think Trump sounds intelligent

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      He’s a stupid person’s idea of a smart person, a poor person’s idea of a rich person, and a trashy person’s idea of a classy person. Can’t remember where I heard that, but it seems very true.

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        I remember hearing that when he was prez, and it really does ring true.

        Guess there’s a nontrivial amount of cognitive dissonance there too, and more than a dash of “I don’t care what the truth is, this is Our Guy and I’ll sing his praises”

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            their low information on the issues that should matter to them

            While I do agree with you in general, I don’t think lack of information is much of a factor. Anybody with an internet connection has access to a fucking fantastic amount of information, but here we are – I think the problem’s everywhere else than lack of access

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                One way to fight that is to give them real information, but that’s hard to do.

                Exactly! This is why I think it’s not lack of information that’s the problem – if accurate information itself was enough, it wouldn’t be as hard as it is to inform conservatives

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    Note to any scientists out there who may have a conversation with trump in the future:

    When he says something so incredibly incoherent that your brain reboots, please do your best to quell your default “nice” response (in this case “Oh, no one’s ever asked me that before”) and instead take a moment to formulate a thorough critique:

    “I’ve never encountered a person with such a limited understanding of so many topics who was actually willing to apply that knowledge in a conversation, let alone a pointed question about the safety of batteries. I need to teach you about how sharks, boats, water, batteries and electricity work before I can even begin addressing that catastrophe of a question.”

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      I’ve had this conversation with people who send me big brain conspiracy videos on topics I actually know things about.

      “Look, this is wrong in a very specific way but for you to understand why I’m going to have to take you through a physics class.”

      There’s this baseline thing that I don’t think we teach in school very well about words and language. We can be using the same words to say things, but our underlying meaning can at times be so different as to be in opposition. Science uses words weird, so a lot of times people who don’t know that very badly misinterpret the meaning of what scientists say.

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    The UV and bleach thing was dumber than most know. Can’t find a longer video any longer, just the ones with him already talking. Picture this.

    Trump enters from stage right to give a press briefing on COVID. On the way up he spies a CDC infographic poster suggesting bleach and UV light as ways to disinfect surfaces. Trump then takes the stage, and like the totally unprepared school child he is, starts blabbering.

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    Weren’t a bunch of those Covid claims just badly inspired from a sign that he saw while he was walking onto the stage - like a much, much stupider version of The Usual Suspects?

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    “Nobody ever asked this question” is so rarely actually true. It’s usually more like, “people have been asking this question for centuries, and we had a decent idea of what the answer is, but we only just now have the data/understanding/technology/circumstances/math/computational power to be able to answer it definitively.” See: Philolaus > Copernicus > Galileo, or Fermat > Wiles, etc.

    When it really is true, it’s usually because, like, a kid asked a question about The Hulk punching the ISS out of the sky or something similarly bananas. Cute when it’s a kid, less so when it’s an elderly man trying to use it as evidence that he’s qualified to have the nuclear launch codes.

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    I distinctly remember he said people should inject bleach not drink it.

    The news noticed quite a few people dying by the “inject an UV lamp from your ass” procedure.