• LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    I find it unbelievable that you are so stereotypical in the American mindset if you actually aren’t from America. It just goes to show how much of America we’ve exported around the world. We’ve literally colonized your mind and it’s especially obvious in the way you do this little reddit-brained liberal quote response thing. It ignores the wholeness of the material conditions of a discussion to focus on specific individual elements and is extremely un-Marxist in it’s approach. This is exactly why re-education will be mandatory.

    That said, if I cannot use your definition of what pizza is and I cannot use other’s definitions of what pizza is or their research or their talking points (and I have no idea why you think this is a rule, perhaps another derangement of your cognitive liberalization) let us approach this from a different way. I find it curious that, the Americanization of pizza which labelled Sicilian sfinciuni as pizza became so ubiquitous that it was exported back to Italy and the Italians have now adopted it as pizza as well, abandoning the very way they traditionally viewed what pizza was and conforming to the American conception. Outstanding that they reconceptualized what pizza even is because we did so first in America. A big strike against Italy as the originators of pizza there so that’s for laying the groundwork.

    But if we are going to explore that further here in America we have all kinds of things we label “pizza”. Pizza without sauce. Pizza that is a giant chocolate chip pastry with frosting and other sweet toppings on on it. Bagel Bites, a pizza on mini bagels. In fact, by utilizing Hegalian analysis of this situation we can say that the synthesis of what we see as pizza could be a bagel with cheese on it and no sauce. Yes, a toasted bagel with cream cheese from a NY deli is a pizza utilizing all the components and configurations that we already accept in America as pizza. It is almost certainly not an Italian invention but I’m sure you friend in Baloney will be serving you this new pizza as a local delicacy in the near future.

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      3 months ago

      It ignores the wholeness of the material conditions of a discussion to focus on specific individual elements and is extremely un-Marxist in it’s approach.

      The american thinks their attempts to be insufferable are praxis farquaad-point

      your definition of what pizza is

      It’s your definition? You’re still the one who decided it was “the definition of pizza”. I have explained it to you multiple times. Like could you at least acknowledge that you’ve heard of set theory if you won’t tackle the learning examples.

      I cannot use other’s definitions

      Uh no, learn to read idiot, you can’t use other people’s arguments for why pizza isn’t Italian. You haven’t actually chosen to define it other than “anything an American calls pizza”.

      and I have no idea why you think this is a rule

      Of course you don’t, that’s why I responded in the first place.

      Americanization of pizza which labelled Sicilian sfinciuni as pizza became so ubiquitous that it was exported back to Italy and the Italians have now adopted it as pizza as well

      citations-needed

      Bagel Bites, a pizza on mini bagels
      Bagel Bites
      Bagel

      Ok, this one’s a good bit, I’ll give you that.

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              3 months ago

              I don’t know if you’ve encountered like… the entire concept of saying things in a public space before, but I don’t need to form a thesis - I’m just pointing out the uncited claims and nonsequiters in yours. I admit that maybe I shouldn’t have overestimated your ability to grasp context with the last one, but you’re literally telling me a bagel, like a thing literally called a BAGEL bite, is actually a pizza, so don’t try to accuse me of contrarian word vomit, because it’s obvious to even the most passive observer that you’re just projecting.