No he’s saying she’s disgusting because she changed as got money by making her name needlessly fancier. That is distinctly different from gaining a name that fits and matches the named when their old one did not.
People not understanding political cartoons, as true today as it was in 1906.
Are you seriously trying to tell me that Billy can’t become William? Jenny can’t be Jennifer? That we are always and solely who we were born as?
because she changed as got money
gaining a name that fits and matches the named when their old one did not
The only difference is perspective. Marguerite says her old name didn’t match, therefore it didn’t. All people change, she changed and is the sole authority on who they are, it’s not your right to say if the reasons are valid. Everett’s righteous indignation at “fancier name” does not give him the authority to say he knows Marguerite better than she knows herself.
Same applies for trans and cis folke alike, even if Ye is a piece of shit person, he has exactly the same right to his name. Saying otherwise is attempting to control expression and personal autonomy.
Neither I nor the cartoon said that and I’m fact I just said the opposite of that. Just… What?
Sure, the cartoonist is saying it doesn’t seem genuine, it’s just bougie classiest shit.
You’re being obtuse, no one in that cartoon or myself here have said anyone can’t or shouldn’t do anything, they’re saying it has consequences one of which is people won’t think you’re genuine anymore if they ever did before.
no one in that cartoon or myself here have said anyone can’t or shouldn’t do anything
I mean, Everett did literally say “You make me sick” and you explained that as “he’s saying she’s disgusting”, so I think it’s disingenuous to say he shouldn’t change her name. You call me obtuse, but I think you are trying to have it both ways.
If we agree she has the right to be Marguerite, then do we also agree that Everett is in the wrong for insulting her over it?
Classism is sickening, what’s your issue? As far as I can tell you’re implying he shouldn’t have an opinion of it’s offensive to someone. That’s sorta really really fucking fun given the claim of transphobia.
No, Everett can have his opinion and she can change her name, they aren’t mutually exclusive and I’m not really sure where you’re going with this odd cryptofacist tirade.
As far as I can tell you’re implying he shouldn’t have an opinion of it’s offensive to someone.
Correct, it’s none of his business. He can have his own opinion, but that doesn’t become a reason to voice it. You can think someone is ugly, but you’re rude to say it aloud. Your opinion does not inherently justify your actions.
That’s sorta really really fucking fun given the claim of transphobia.
I truly have no idea what you are trying to say here. People can have their personal views of trans folk, I can’t change that, but at minimum, leave us the fuck alone. You don’t have to understand us to respect us.
and I’m not really sure where you’re going with this odd cryptofacist tirade.
Tirade? Hey you responded to ME, I’ve only tried to expand and explain my reasoning after being called wrong. But if you are going to insult me by calling it a tirade, then I am wasting my time. My lone point has only been that is Everett being an controlling ass.
Look, I’m confused and tired by this whole thing. Maybe just downvote me and lets move on with our lives?
You can’t be so blind as to not see your own hypocrisy. He’s entitled to his opinion, your entitled to yours and implying his opinion shouldn’t exist because it’s not aligned with your opinion. That’s called fascism. You understand your opinion is offensive/rude to someone, should your opinion exist?
I said your a hypocrite in a nice way. You’re assuming I’m not “one of you” whatever that might be boss… you get the irony there right?
She’s not trans! She’s fucking bougie and being mocked for it, is literally why her fur shawl has so comically many tails (more tails = more furs = more expensive). I’m not sure how or why your conflating this stupid shit.
That doesn’t make it not a tirade. “a long, angry speech of criticism or accusation.” It’s also not an insult but your fragility is glaring.
Of course he is, that’s the goddamn joke!
Look, I’m confused and tired by this whole thing.
That’s quite obvious.
Maybe just downvote me and lets move on with our lives?
Or I could attempt to educate you on your fledgling fascist behavior since you’ve put it out there, ironically much like Everett here.
Well that’s the end of this discussion. You are deeply unserious person and I don’t really care what you have to say on the topic. Go be mad elsewhere.
No he’s saying she’s disgusting because she changed as got money by making her name needlessly fancier. That is distinctly different from gaining a name that fits and matches the named when their old one did not.
People not understanding political cartoons, as true today as it was in 1906.
Are you seriously trying to tell me that Billy can’t become William? Jenny can’t be Jennifer? That we are always and solely who we were born as?
The only difference is perspective. Marguerite says her old name didn’t match, therefore it didn’t. All people change, she changed and is the sole authority on who they are, it’s not your right to say if the reasons are valid. Everett’s righteous indignation at “fancier name” does not give him the authority to say he knows Marguerite better than she knows herself.
Same applies for trans and cis folke alike, even if Ye is a piece of shit person, he has exactly the same right to his name. Saying otherwise is attempting to control expression and personal autonomy.
Neither I nor the cartoon said that and I’m fact I just said the opposite of that. Just… What?
Sure, the cartoonist is saying it doesn’t seem genuine, it’s just bougie classiest shit.
You’re being obtuse, no one in that cartoon or myself here have said anyone can’t or shouldn’t do anything, they’re saying it has consequences one of which is people won’t think you’re genuine anymore if they ever did before.
I mean, Everett did literally say “You make me sick” and you explained that as “he’s saying she’s disgusting”, so I think it’s disingenuous to say he shouldn’t change her name. You call me obtuse, but I think you are trying to have it both ways.
If we agree she has the right to be Marguerite, then do we also agree that Everett is in the wrong for insulting her over it?
Classism is sickening, what’s your issue? As far as I can tell you’re implying he shouldn’t have an opinion of it’s offensive to someone. That’s sorta really really fucking fun given the claim of transphobia.
No, Everett can have his opinion and she can change her name, they aren’t mutually exclusive and I’m not really sure where you’re going with this odd cryptofacist tirade.
Correct, it’s none of his business. He can have his own opinion, but that doesn’t become a reason to voice it. You can think someone is ugly, but you’re rude to say it aloud. Your opinion does not inherently justify your actions.
I truly have no idea what you are trying to say here. People can have their personal views of trans folk, I can’t change that, but at minimum, leave us the fuck alone. You don’t have to understand us to respect us.
Tirade? Hey you responded to ME, I’ve only tried to expand and explain my reasoning after being called wrong. But if you are going to insult me by calling it a tirade, then I am wasting my time. My lone point has only been that is Everett being an controlling ass.
Look, I’m confused and tired by this whole thing. Maybe just downvote me and lets move on with our lives?
You can’t be so blind as to not see your own hypocrisy. He’s entitled to his opinion, your entitled to yours and implying his opinion shouldn’t exist because it’s not aligned with your opinion. That’s called fascism. You understand your opinion is offensive/rude to someone, should your opinion exist?
I said your a hypocrite in a nice way. You’re assuming I’m not “one of you” whatever that might be boss… you get the irony there right?
She’s not trans! She’s fucking bougie and being mocked for it, is literally why her fur shawl has so comically many tails (more tails = more furs = more expensive). I’m not sure how or why your conflating this stupid shit.
That doesn’t make it not a tirade. “a long, angry speech of criticism or accusation.” It’s also not an insult but your fragility is glaring.
Of course he is, that’s the goddamn joke!
That’s quite obvious.
Or I could attempt to educate you on your fledgling fascist behavior since you’ve put it out there, ironically much like Everett here.
😂
Well that’s the end of this discussion. You are deeply unserious person and I don’t really care what you have to say on the topic. Go be mad elsewhere.
You’re literally spouting 1984 shit dude and you’re gonna talk about how I’m not serious? Read a book ya bigot.
What do I identify as boss? Huh, what’s my orientation you presumptive twat.