• diprount_tomato@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Drugs actually worsen the quality of life for everyone. You just need to go to some streets in San Francisco to know it

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      No, what is bad is how people who use drugs are treated like criminals and thrown in jail. People don’t suddenly decide they want to be addicted to crack or something… But you know… Curiosity kills the cat. These people need help, not jail time. In countries where drugs have been decriminalized, there’s very little usage of hard drugs. Iirc, when users are spotted, they are offered treatment instead of a jail sentence.

      Decriminalization works and it has been proven… Yet there are still so many countries that refuse to take the step

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        what is bad is how people who use drugs are treated like criminals and thrown in jail

        Agreed.

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          dealers get jail

          Then we arrest a 17 year old POC male because of a dime bag was calculated using police math to be 1 billion dollars street value and clearly dealer level.

          And “therapy” turns out to be taxpayer funded rehab places where people pet fucking horses to get over their Marijuana “addiction” and atheists are forced to pray.

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            I went to state funded rehab outa jail… They were putting people with multiple clean years under belt on suboxone. 🙄 while pushing hard on AA, which does come across as a religious cult to me, while the principals are mostly sound, the people sent into these places to proselytize, don’t have anything other than a Christian god to project into a “higher power”…instead of it being you and the people and world around you.

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              Because the war on drugs disproportionately impacts certain races over others. I mention race because race is relevant to the issue.

              But yeah thanks for stereotyping in a comment telling at me for stereotyping. I enjoy seeing my point made.

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                Unless you all forget the skin colour of the person next to you, your country will stay in the same shitty situation.

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                  Yes I often tell people that we can better solve problems by pretending that they do not exist.

                  Instead of admitting that racism does exist and policies have to be crafted for the very imperfect world that we have now. We should go ahead with laws that assume perfect people act perfectly. Because if we assume this the power of wishful thinking will render it so.

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                    Go on and see how nothing changes unless you all see yourselves as Americans and just that, and stop giving a shit about skin color

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                  I don’t believe that the solution is ignoring rather obvious physical differences, what I think would make a difference is the understanding that such differences are no indication of a person’s character.

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          OP wasn’t insinuating that you were saying drug addicts are criminals. How I interepereted what they said was that what you were describing wasn’t bad in OP’s opinion, and what actually was bad was that drug addicts are treated as criminals.

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      Dont believe you and I wouldn’t care if it were true. I am not a utilitarian.

      As for San Francisco, have you considered the radical idea of building more housing for greater housing needs?

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      This is a strawman argument. I don’t believe that OP was arguing that drugs increased anyone’s quality of life, they were instaead arguing, and rightly so, that access to drugs is a in line with the libertarian philosophy.