This unfolded on “United States | News & Politics@midwest.social”. Owner ‘seahorse’ showing the kind of person they are.

This is not how you run a server.

Edit: link to comment:

https://midwest.social/comment/11535311

          • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
            4·
            4 months ago

            At some point one instance is going to have democratically elected mods and admins, that would be interesting.

            In the meantime yeah, we are still using other people’s servers

          • nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
            73·
            4 months ago

            Admins are legally responsible for anything that gets posted on their server, so they require control. They also put in time and money to keep the server running.

            There may be other technologies where all-powerful admins aren’t necessary, like peer-to-peer networks. But then everything gets much more complicated. No more opening a website and entering username and password, now users need to install a client first and use a private key. It’s not clear who is responsible for moderation. Scaling will be much more difficult. Users don’t want to store gigabytes of historical data on their devices, so some servers are still needed. The way Activitypub and Lemmy works is really a hybrid between normal websites which is a well-known paradigm, and p2p which is still experimental. The p2p part is only done on the server because it would be too complex otherwise.

            • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
              5·
              4 months ago

              I’m not saying that admins don’t require control. What I’m saying is that there isn’t an ability to distribute admin and mod duties on Lemmy in a more granular sense. There is only one admin head or one mod head and that can lead to mod issues the same that Reddit had.

              • nutomic@lemmy.ml
                23·
                4 months ago

                I suppose this could be improved, but not sure how exactly. Afaik there is no issue about this yet, and anyway we lack development resources to implement everything. Sometimes I imagine how much we could achieve if Lemmy had 2000 employees like Reddit.

                • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
                  4·
                  4 months ago

                  Afaik there is no issue about this yet

                  There have been issues with it, with don’t somewhat popular instances becoming ghost towns because of admin actions. Part of the problem is that Lemmy out of the box doesn’t really allow for anything other than one benevolent dictator.

                  anyway we lack development resources to implement everything

                  This is open source. There should be a published plan on development and a call for help to the community. If development can’t transfer to a model where multiple groups develop different parts of the development plan, Lemmy isn’t going to be able to grow.

                  • nutomic@lemmy.ml
                    31·
                    4 months ago

                    We will soon get a new round of funding from NLnet, once that is finalized we will publish a blog post with the milestones.

              • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
                23·
                4 months ago

                This question has been discussed at length in the thread. If people want to boycott Lemmy and switch to Mbin or Piefed, that’s their choice, but maybe not relevant in this context?

                Their comment here is valuable, posting this screenshot every time they comment seems counter productive.