• potatopotato@sh.itjust.works
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      Realistically they sell more guns than any other group. Every time they call for random bans everyone goes and empties every gun store within a 100 mile drive. Obviously there’s a lot more to it than that but both sides political rhetoric has been making the US small arms industry absolutely explode. We’re absolutely past the point where you could actually ban scary guns and have any effect. Half the country has more ARs than they know what to do with, literal piles in safes and dresser drawers, and they’ve gotten extremely comfortable with the concept of civil disobedience/non-compliance. Further, fuck 3d printing, every dude with access to a CNC is pumping out cheap lowers and suppressors so they can justify having an SOT (the ability to obtain or produce legal machine guns).

      If this is scary, the best and only course of action is reducing the temperature. Treat young men like they aren’t economic cannon fodder so they don’t feel like the only locus of control is fucking weaponry (fix housing, job security), positive intervention for crisis (don’t just send a hit squad of cops), and don’t be afraid to engage with rural populations (they’re intelligent humans too).

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        Other liberals screaming for an AR-15 ban after Uvalde is exactly what prompted me to buy one.

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          What a strong and complex individual who definitely isn’t a sheep at all. Take that libs.

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            Potential scarcity is potential scarcity. Many people would rather have and not need than need and not have. It’s a fact that every time weapons bans are threatened, gun sales dramatically increase. Considering they never pass but are routinely threatened by politicians, all it’s doing is harming democrats politically and lining the pockets of gun companies.

            70% support. Think about that. More people in this country support guns than any national politician or governing body. Sheesh. 'Murica.

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              I think what is left out of this post and needs to be shared is the amount of Americans who support common sense gun control.

              https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

              Point 5 says 61 percent think it’s too easy to get a gun. I tend to agree. If you can’t pass a background check and demonstrate proficiency I don’t think you should have it. Now, if you can have it, I agree you should be able to carry it. Concealed.

              If you gotta strap a gun on your chest and walk in Walmart that’s either intimidation OR you’re too dumb to be carrying in the first place… But that’s another topic for sure.

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                “Common sense” comments imply that your take is reasonable and the opposition’s is not. Automatic argument winner! Think on that.

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                  I mean, as long as your “common sense” argument isn’t “ShALl nOT bE iNFriNGeD!”, no matter what it’s a step in the right direction.

                  Passing a background check and even a proficiency check is not exactly a high bar. I’d prefer both but I’d settle for the former. It’s pants on head stupid that to get my lifetime concealed carry permit all I had to do is give money to get finger printed and then I’m in. That’s borderline negligent IMO.

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      If they get their way, only 2/7 of my guns would be legal (the revolver and the 1953 lever action), so that would take 5 of mine personally. You are in denial if you think I’m going for that.

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        Idk I just think to myself:

        Do I like my guns? Yes. Do I want to sell them? No.

        Do I value having all of the guns that I want MORE than I want affordable healthcare with price caps for insulin and women having choices in their reproductive health? More than public options with regulations for my my utilities? More than I value equality under the law for everyone, and not having the bible shoved up my ass in a way that friends my friends can’t get married or my sister can’t adopt?

        No. I don’t.

        It would suck if they were illegal and you had to sell, but no one is coming to knock on your door and take them, so surrender or move or whatever would be up to you. Not all democrats want Chicago style gun control.

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            Is that not exactly what we were talking about?

            Disarm still is the wrong word because it’s never going to happen that there’s a door to door collection with house searches. Legality is where you went, and I followed I thought?

            Did you have a facet if the issue you wanted to circle back to?

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              Disarm is still thr right word if they don’t go door to door but instead offer prison sentances for failure to comply and surrender them. That’s literally how the actual 1930s nazis disarmed the jewish population of post weimar germany.

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      Literally all the guns. I used to live in a converted .50 cal and the damn Democrats took it all. Now I’m homeless.

      Just kidding. I love watching insecure troglodytes tweak over a fake threat to their only means of defense; metal slugs moving at 1300’/second.

      All jokes aside I own several firearms. If you cling to guns as a special facet of your personality you are a weak and failed individual. You deserve the mental anguish over your perceived persecution.

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        I can even understand guns being an issue that weighs on your mind when you vote. It has crossed my mind. The thing for me though is my gun case holds tools. I don’t need to choose tools over the lives, healthcare/support, or equality under the law of other people.

        That to me is bonkers.

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      Kamala Harris is on record saying she wants mandatory buybacks - that is, mandatory confiscations. So chances are, if she becomes president, we’ll see her pushing for it.