• derf82@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Disliking tipping is no reason to screw hardworking people over. Tipping is a fact of life, even if you think it’s dumb.

      • Doug [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Sure but until they do a lot of those people need tips to get by and it’s far from as easy as “just get a different job”

        Source: used to be one such person

        • Iamdanno@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          With unemployment numbers so low right now, this is actually the time to “just get another job”. In the USA, at least.

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            1 year ago

            Have you tried?

            What other job do you get when your experience is tipped work? Or do you go to school to take on debt that will set you back for a long time because the education system is shot too.

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      1 year ago

      Ultimately, we need to tip people in the short term to keep them afloat until we can work with them in the long term to get America to the standard that most of the rest of the world takes, where tipping is a special case scenario only for exceptionally good work, and never to be needed or expected.

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      1 year ago

      It really doesn’t have to be a “fact of life”, and it isn’t in many places, such as Australia and England – nations with very similar degrees of economic prosperity, and very similar cultures, to the USA.

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        1 year ago

        People have tried and failed. But my point is, until that time you have to tip. I don’t care for people that don’t tip while arguing they are doing their server a favor. It is a disingenuous attempt to be cheap. A server’s paycheck should not be held hostage to a a war on tipping culture.

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      1 year ago

      I don’t see them saying they don’t tip, but arguing against the system in place. Which are two separate things.

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        1 year ago

        And you think not tipping your server today, before they get those wages, will make that happen?

        Sorry, Mr. Pink. Being an asshole to your server does not make you somehow pro-worker.

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      1 year ago

      I’m always torn on this. I want to tip to help someone earn a living, but if enough of us stopped tipping employees would leave unless they were paid more. It does feel like adding suffering to the wrong people, but if out created change it would be nice eventually