think I forgot this one

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    as someone who only draws as a hobbyist, but who has taken commissions before, i think it would be very annoying to have a prospective client go “okay so here’s what i want you to draw” and then send over ai-generated stuff. if only because i know said client is setting their expectations for the hyper-processed, over-tuned look of the machine instead of what i actually draw

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      Would you rather have a dozen back and forth interactions?

      Besides, this is something I’ve heard from other artists, so it’s very much a matter opinion.

      The main opposition to ai images by artists is that it steals art from artists to make plagiarized versions, thereby taking away from paid work from those artists. If in the end, an artist is still being paid, what’s the difference between a commissioner handing a pile of reference sheets? Annoying, sure, but not immoral.

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        Would you rather have a dozen back and forth interactions?

        these aren’t the only two possibilities. i’ve had some interactions where i got handed one ref sheet and a sentence description and the recipient was happy with the first sketch. i’ve had some where i got several pieces of references from different artists alongside paragraphs of descriptions, and there were still several dozen attempts. tossing in ai art just increases the volume, not the quality, of the interaction

        Besides, this is something I’ve heard from other artists, so it’s very much a matter opinion.

        i have interacted with hundreds of artists, and i have yet to meet an artist that does not, to at least some degree, have some kind of negative opinion on ai art, except those for whom image-generation models were their primary (or more commonly, only) tool for making art. so if there is such a group of artists that would be happy to be presented with ai art and asked to “make it like this”, i have yet to find them

        Annoying, sure, but not immoral.

        annoying me is immoral actually

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          have some kind of negative opinion on ai art,

          An opinion is still an opinion no matter how widely held it is.

          Also, I like how I’ve made a minor carve out for ai images as a tool with limited use, yet I still refuse to call it art. And then we have people who are attacking any use of ai images that are willing to call it “AI Art”…

          annoying me is immoral actually

          I believe that you believe that.

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            3 months ago

            and if we needed more proof you’re lazy and creatively bankrupt, this swing and a miss at a gotcha confirmed it

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            An opinion is still an opinion no matter how widely held it is.

            why did you even bring up your one artist friend’s opinion if you’re just gonna be like “well actually that’s just YOUR opinion” when i disagree

            yet I still refuse to call it art.

            Duchamp wants a word

            And then we have people who are attacking any use of ai images that are willing to call it “AI Art”…

            good thing i, me, the person you’re responding to, isn’t those people. makes me wonder why you even brought it up in the first place

            I believe that you believe that.

            i also believe you’re deliberately trying to be as insufferable as possible, so be sure to add that to the bizarre collection of things you think i believe while you’re at it. or better yet: don’t