So PBS Frontline has this new documentary that I watched a few weeks ago, “Biden’s Decision”. As a leftist that voted against Trump, not FOR Biden, I figured I would learn more about his history.
But it was honestly shocking to me that the entire crux of the piece was “Get back up” and “Determination” for all the times Biden ran for president, he himself never really gave a good reason why. Biden decided he wanted to be president, and therefore he spent his whole life running for president, not because he felt he was the most qualified or best for the country. But because he wanted it. Biden wanted to be the one in charge, but historically, he never had many who actually wanted him? Dude only got to the White House when Obama balanced his ticket and then again when his best qualification was “Literally Not Trump”.
So while I am glad he dropped out, and somewhat happy for Biden for achieving a life goal, I guess? Still don’t see a compelling reason to be enthusiastic for the man, yet it was eye opening that no one has ever been enthusiastic for him. Biden stepping down was the right thing to do, just not the thing he wanted to do. Not really sure that is deserving of praise?
Humility isn’t exactly a noble virtue, it’s a standard. Not this lifetime running for the sake of running. Glad he is finally out, but that’s hardly going above and beyond, it’s less than the bare minimum.
Gen-X here, and likely to be downvoted to hell in this thread, but I remember Biden from the 90’s. He was…not a good guy. He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. Constantly fear mongering about crime. Yes, both he and Clinton recently admitted that the “tough on crime” thing was a mistake, but that doesn’t really help the situation we find ourselves in now where a significant portion of the population is incarcerated and facing near impossible odds if they ever get out. Their families and society as a whole have paid the price for a few men’s political ambitions.
So, yeah, old man Joe ended up being a fairly decent president (after getting old as fuck, having one son die and the other become a total.loser piece of shit), but he was never “good guy Joe”.
… I remember Biden from the 90’s. He was…not a good guy. He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. …
that’s the biden i know and i wish i could see him like op does; but it’s clear biden hasn’t changed his his ways when you take into account all of the lip service he’s paid for things like green energy and progressive justice while simultaneously permitting drilling to the highest levels ever in recorded history; using the inflation act to create tariffs to block truly affordable green energy products; and giving nearly unfettered access to weaponry to bomb a defenseless group of people into non-existence.
he’s done this so many times before like when he said that gays deserve compassion and then supported dont ask dont tell and voted for doma; also when he suggested that young people need help and then created the student loan act of 2005 that is currently fucking a lot of us over and for life; plus many MANY more examples.
i get that it’s election season and we want to be nice; but this guy doesn’t deserve it for doing the bare minimum.
He was against integration. He was a key player in giving us Thomas. He didn’t pull out and allow the democrats to have an actual primary. And so on. I’m glad he dropped out. I think his administration did an OK job, albeit completely failing in dealing with the fascism threat (no, I don’t know what they could have done. That’s not my job.).
He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. Constantly fear mongering about crime.
Here, I’ll take some of your downvotes - if being “tough on crime” gives you MAGA energy (and I agree, it does), then what energy does that mean ex-prosecutor, “top cop” Harris has?
The answer is, it doesn’t matter, she is a liberal icon - a Black girl boss (so that’s racism and sexism solved! /s)(E: representation is really important, but if she doesn’t represent the interests of those like her, is it really a good representation?), a democrat (making her the antifasciest of antifascists, don’t you know), and maintainer of the status quo (all libs really care about, they find comfort in the system and want it to continue as it is).
Sure, She’s-Not-Trump™, but that doesn’t make her (or anyone the right leaning democratic party would put up) actually good for you, it just means that those in charge get one of their own in, whoever wins.
And that is the point of the two party system. Shame people are so desperate for a feeling of belonging and community (a feature, not a bug) that they substitute that with uncritical support of team red or team blue, when in reality they should be for “team citizen”, which neither party is.
I disagree that humility is a standard. Yes, it should be, but sadly it is a virtue that isn’t found in too many people nowadays. Most people don’t really think critically enough about themselves to truly be humble imo.
It actually does sound like you agree with me? If we can both say that it’s not found in enough people and that’s dissapointing then it is a standard we hold just one not enough meet. Humility isn’t common, but since it is such a low bar of understanding yourself it doesn’t deserve praise.
Yeah, if you put it like that then I agree. I just understood “standard” in your previous comment as “what most people are like”. Which I guess we wouldn’t call “standard”, we’d call it “normal” instead. 🤔
So PBS Frontline has this new documentary that I watched a few weeks ago, “Biden’s Decision”. As a leftist that voted against Trump, not FOR Biden, I figured I would learn more about his history.
But it was honestly shocking to me that the entire crux of the piece was “Get back up” and “Determination” for all the times Biden ran for president, he himself never really gave a good reason why. Biden decided he wanted to be president, and therefore he spent his whole life running for president, not because he felt he was the most qualified or best for the country. But because he wanted it. Biden wanted to be the one in charge, but historically, he never had many who actually wanted him? Dude only got to the White House when Obama balanced his ticket and then again when his best qualification was “Literally Not Trump”.
So while I am glad he dropped out, and somewhat happy for Biden for achieving a life goal, I guess? Still don’t see a compelling reason to be enthusiastic for the man, yet it was eye opening that no one has ever been enthusiastic for him. Biden stepping down was the right thing to do, just not the thing he wanted to do. Not really sure that is deserving of praise?
Humility isn’t exactly a noble virtue, it’s a standard. Not this lifetime running for the sake of running. Glad he is finally out, but that’s hardly going above and beyond, it’s less than the bare minimum.
Gen-X here, and likely to be downvoted to hell in this thread, but I remember Biden from the 90’s. He was…not a good guy. He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. Constantly fear mongering about crime. Yes, both he and Clinton recently admitted that the “tough on crime” thing was a mistake, but that doesn’t really help the situation we find ourselves in now where a significant portion of the population is incarcerated and facing near impossible odds if they ever get out. Their families and society as a whole have paid the price for a few men’s political ambitions.
So, yeah, old man Joe ended up being a fairly decent president (after getting old as fuck, having one son die and the other become a total.loser piece of shit), but he was never “good guy Joe”.
that’s the biden i know and i wish i could see him like op does; but it’s clear biden hasn’t changed his his ways when you take into account all of the lip service he’s paid for things like green energy and progressive justice while simultaneously permitting drilling to the highest levels ever in recorded history; using the inflation act to create tariffs to block truly affordable green energy products; and giving nearly unfettered access to weaponry to bomb a defenseless group of people into non-existence.
he’s done this so many times before like when he said that gays deserve compassion and then supported dont ask dont tell and voted for doma; also when he suggested that young people need help and then created the student loan act of 2005 that is currently fucking a lot of us over and for life; plus many MANY more examples.
i get that it’s election season and we want to be nice; but this guy doesn’t deserve it for doing the bare minimum.
He was against integration. He was a key player in giving us Thomas. He didn’t pull out and allow the democrats to have an actual primary. And so on. I’m glad he dropped out. I think his administration did an OK job, albeit completely failing in dealing with the fascism threat (no, I don’t know what they could have done. That’s not my job.).
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Here, I’ll take some of your downvotes - if being “tough on crime” gives you MAGA energy (and I agree, it does), then what energy does that mean ex-prosecutor, “top cop” Harris has?
The answer is, it doesn’t matter, she is a liberal icon - a Black girl boss (so that’s racism and sexism solved! /s)(E: representation is really important, but if she doesn’t represent the interests of those like her, is it really a good representation?), a democrat (making her the antifasciest of antifascists, don’t you know), and maintainer of the status quo (all libs really care about, they find comfort in the system and want it to continue as it is).
Sure, She’s-Not-Trump™, but that doesn’t make her (or anyone the right leaning democratic party would put up) actually good for you, it just means that those in charge get one of their own in, whoever wins.
And that is the point of the two party system. Shame people are so desperate for a feeling of belonging and community (a feature, not a bug) that they substitute that with uncritical support of team red or team blue, when in reality they should be for “team citizen”, which neither party is.
I disagree that humility is a standard. Yes, it should be, but sadly it is a virtue that isn’t found in too many people nowadays. Most people don’t really think critically enough about themselves to truly be humble imo.
It actually does sound like you agree with me? If we can both say that it’s not found in enough people and that’s dissapointing then it is a standard we hold just one not enough meet. Humility isn’t common, but since it is such a low bar of understanding yourself it doesn’t deserve praise.
Yeah, if you put it like that then I agree. I just understood “standard” in your previous comment as “what most people are like”. Which I guess we wouldn’t call “standard”, we’d call it “normal” instead. 🤔