With this style of doorhandles up/down movement isn’t transferred through the slab. They both serve the same function of retracting the plunger from the jamb, and don’t require the opposing handle to move AT ALL. Likely due to safety concerns/regulations in high occupancy buildings, I’m comfortable saying all legal apartments have doorhandles that function this way.
If your apartment doesn’t it’s time to call health and safety because your landlord is breaking the law.
This is a fake shitpost for internet clout, same as it was 5 years ago when it was posted.
Codes are different (and actually enforced) when you have one property owner and dozens if not hundreds of tenants who all can sue the owner at a whim (in the US, anyhow).
That’s also likely true, I was just commenting on if that’s the outside of door, and there’s no keyhole in the lever, it’s incredibly unlikely you have to press down to open it.
I would scale a 3 floor building by climbing down balconies before I call maintainence to let me out. Or toss some rope out the window and climb down I guess.
But I think I would even try taking the entire handle off before calling maintenance. Or even straight up texting a family member and waiting a few hours.
My wife, on the other hand, is the “I tried to wiggle it lightly a few times so now I am giving up”. Installed a new light last week, and it takes a split second to actually turn on. In the literal 600-800ms it takes to charge up, she flipped the switch 3 or 4 times, and loudly yelled about how the piece of shit we bought doesn’t work. I simply went over and flipped the switch up and left it there to actually power up.
Unless this handle is ancient or was originally for an interior door, then this is just for Internet points.
Pretty much all modern exterior door knobs can turn from one side, even if the knob on the other side is being held in place. On older doors or doors made for interiors you can still find a spindle that connects one knob to the other.
However, in modern door knobs each knob is connected to the tumbler cylinder via independent shanks. So blocking one or destroying the outside knob doesn’t trap the occupant inside.
For exterior doors…? More than likely those are meant for interior use, and someone is being cheap and installing them for exterior use.
Either that or they just appear to be affixed together, but will still operate the tumbler even if one is being held in place.
The reason they don’t really use a single spindle anymore is because it makes them extremely easy to brute force. You can literally just knock the handle off and access and operate the latch assembly.
They are for whichever use the customer wants. When used in outside facing doors (or doors you want to actually lock down) it should be paired with a deadbolt, as it is here.
You are not wrong in saying that the main reason to use this solution is cost tho.
The reason they don’t really use a single spindle anymore is because it makes them extremely easy to brute force. You can literally just knock the handle off and access and operate the latch assembly.
Those locks dont have a locking mechanism (hence the deadbolt) they are just meant to keep the door shut
There are some that do lock the latch. In those cases removing the handless wont do you any favours since the assembly itself is locked in place. And there are others that dont lock the latch but have a deadbolt as part of the lock.
To be fair, the lever handles on my apartment door do not lift up and both handles turn at the same time. For whatever reason :/ so there is reasonable chance this post is real.
Not that old for the area. I’m not too worried about it, as I mentioned in another comment, easy to just remove the handle if this ever happened. There isn’t really any kind of emergency that could happen here where an extra 30 seconds to remove a door handle would be life or death. If it’s that bad, death would be certain.
A fire?
Do you walk around with a screwdriver ready to go?
It takes 30 seconds to take the handle off in normal conditions, how long will it take you when you are blinding by and choking on smoke?
Almost all of the comments below this are incorrect in assuming how lever handles operate.
In cheaper or lower grade lever handles, both handles operate together and operate the latch. When it’s locked, the lever stays rigid and does not move. It is very easy to stand with your own bodyweight on the lever and break it, therefore getting in.
Only in higher grade lever handles do both handles operate independently while also not engaging the latch, preventing the handle from staying rigid and less likely of being broken.
So assuming this is a shitty or lower grade lever handle, getting locked into your apt this way is 100% plausible.
Not all. The safety doors for roof access at our building only work in one direction, up. I’ve been told you can set any of them up to only work in one direction. Just like some can not be unlocked and require to key to open every time. Same doorknob different setup. But I agree that picture is from the inside.
The outside of those kind of doors pretty much universally, operate from the outside with a key. There may be some edge cases I’m not thinking about but they wouldn’t apply to a living space.
That specific type of lock doesnt use a key, they just have a spring loaded bolt (? sorry, dont know terminology in english) and no real locking mechanism. Thats what the deadbolt on top is for
I seriously don’t understand what you mean by that statement. I agreed with you that the picture was from the inside. All I’ve talked about is how they can be set where they only open if the handle is moved one direction. We have several of every configuration in our building.
Most handles have a part that is the “outside” which goes on the unsecure side of the door. Due to safety the outside of the handle has a way to operate it if it locks. Keys for keyed locks, or a bypass for privacy handles. I was saying if that was the outside of the door, it’s not a locking handle it’s a passage handle.
The “inside” of a handle is the side that’s installed on the secure side of the door, and it’s the side you can access the screws that hold the handle on the door. On classroom and storage function handles, they can’t control the doors locking state from the inside, but they can always operate the handle to get out.
By unsecured I generally mean the side of the door with the least restricted access. Like the outside of your house when thinking about a front door.
Most levers you can lift up to pull the latch. Especially passage levers like that one.
I think most of these pictures are made up for internet points. This is a pull door. Amazon boxes don’t have incredible structural integrity.
It’s not about stopping the door from swinging, it’s about stopping the handle from turning.
That being said, they could probably have just turned the handle up instead of down.
Of course I know people who would absolutely just try pushing down a couple times, give up, and call maintenance.
With this style of doorhandles up/down movement isn’t transferred through the slab. They both serve the same function of retracting the plunger from the jamb, and don’t require the opposing handle to move AT ALL. Likely due to safety concerns/regulations in high occupancy buildings, I’m comfortable saying all legal apartments have doorhandles that function this way.
If your apartment doesn’t it’s time to call health and safety because your landlord is breaking the law.
This is a fake shitpost for internet clout, same as it was 5 years ago when it was posted.
My house came with door handle on my outside gate that has both handles directly connected and only turns downward and not upward.
They definitely exist and are still in use some places.
Like most of bloody Europe.
Not quite a high occupancy building imo.
Codes are different (and actually enforced) when you have one property owner and dozens if not hundreds of tenants who all can sue the owner at a whim (in the US, anyhow).
Situations vary and as satisfying as it is to appear to know it all, one doesn’t due to the large variety of how things are throughout the world.
This post gives us a precise situation and the regulations are also very specific.
It’s not a hard conclusion to arrive at.
That’s also likely true, I was just commenting on if that’s the outside of door, and there’s no keyhole in the lever, it’s incredibly unlikely you have to press down to open it.
I would scale a 3 floor building by climbing down balconies before I call maintainence to let me out. Or toss some rope out the window and climb down I guess.
But I think I would even try taking the entire handle off before calling maintenance. Or even straight up texting a family member and waiting a few hours.
My wife, on the other hand, is the “I tried to wiggle it lightly a few times so now I am giving up”. Installed a new light last week, and it takes a split second to actually turn on. In the literal 600-800ms it takes to charge up, she flipped the switch 3 or 4 times, and loudly yelled about how the piece of shit we bought doesn’t work. I simply went over and flipped the switch up and left it there to actually power up.
People like that 100% exist.
tbf I would definitely consider an 800ms delay on a light bulb as that light bulb not working and needing to be replaced
Taking the handle off is exactly what I’d do, no need to scale the side of a building lmao.
Unless this handle is ancient or was originally for an interior door, then this is just for Internet points.
Pretty much all modern exterior door knobs can turn from one side, even if the knob on the other side is being held in place. On older doors or doors made for interiors you can still find a spindle that connects one knob to the other.
However, in modern door knobs each knob is connected to the tumbler cylinder via independent shanks. So blocking one or destroying the outside knob doesn’t trap the occupant inside.
Those types of loocks, where the handles are fixed together, are fairly common where I live and are still sold. The world is a big place.
For exterior doors…? More than likely those are meant for interior use, and someone is being cheap and installing them for exterior use.
Either that or they just appear to be affixed together, but will still operate the tumbler even if one is being held in place.
The reason they don’t really use a single spindle anymore is because it makes them extremely easy to brute force. You can literally just knock the handle off and access and operate the latch assembly.
They are for whichever use the customer wants. When used in outside facing doors (or doors you want to actually lock down) it should be paired with a deadbolt, as it is here. You are not wrong in saying that the main reason to use this solution is cost tho.
Those locks dont have a locking mechanism (hence the deadbolt) they are just meant to keep the door shut
There are some that do lock the latch. In those cases removing the handless wont do you any favours since the assembly itself is locked in place. And there are others that dont lock the latch but have a deadbolt as part of the lock.
To be fair, the lever handles on my apartment door do not lift up and both handles turn at the same time. For whatever reason :/ so there is reasonable chance this post is real.
How old is your building, and does your handle lock? I would look at getting that replaced, regardless of your awnsers.
Not that old for the area. I’m not too worried about it, as I mentioned in another comment, easy to just remove the handle if this ever happened. There isn’t really any kind of emergency that could happen here where an extra 30 seconds to remove a door handle would be life or death. If it’s that bad, death would be certain.
A fire? Do you walk around with a screwdriver ready to go? It takes 30 seconds to take the handle off in normal conditions, how long will it take you when you are blinding by and choking on smoke?
That’s why I keep my fire drill handy
Almost all of the comments below this are incorrect in assuming how lever handles operate.
In cheaper or lower grade lever handles, both handles operate together and operate the latch. When it’s locked, the lever stays rigid and does not move. It is very easy to stand with your own bodyweight on the lever and break it, therefore getting in.
Only in higher grade lever handles do both handles operate independently while also not engaging the latch, preventing the handle from staying rigid and less likely of being broken.
So assuming this is a shitty or lower grade lever handle, getting locked into your apt this way is 100% plausible.
Not all. The safety doors for roof access at our building only work in one direction, up. I’ve been told you can set any of them up to only work in one direction. Just like some can not be unlocked and require to key to open every time. Same doorknob different setup. But I agree that picture is from the inside.
The outside of those kind of doors pretty much universally, operate from the outside with a key. There may be some edge cases I’m not thinking about but they wouldn’t apply to a living space.
That specific type of lock doesnt use a key, they just have a spring loaded bolt (? sorry, dont know terminology in english) and no real locking mechanism. Thats what the deadbolt on top is for
Yes, that was my original point, I was responding to the roof door example.
Apologies. I was having to much fun replying to the experts I didnt noticed.
I seriously don’t understand what you mean by that statement. I agreed with you that the picture was from the inside. All I’ve talked about is how they can be set where they only open if the handle is moved one direction. We have several of every configuration in our building.
Most handles have a part that is the “outside” which goes on the unsecure side of the door. Due to safety the outside of the handle has a way to operate it if it locks. Keys for keyed locks, or a bypass for privacy handles. I was saying if that was the outside of the door, it’s not a locking handle it’s a passage handle.
The “inside” of a handle is the side that’s installed on the secure side of the door, and it’s the side you can access the screws that hold the handle on the door. On classroom and storage function handles, they can’t control the doors locking state from the inside, but they can always operate the handle to get out.
By unsecured I generally mean the side of the door with the least restricted access. Like the outside of your house when thinking about a front door.