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A Texas mother was taken into custody Tuesday after police alleged her 22-month-old child died when she left the infant in a car outside a Corpus Christi school on one of the hottest days of the year.
The mother, 33-year-old Hilda Ann Adame, was jailed on charges of causing serious bodily injury to a child and child endangerment/abandonment with imminent bodily injury, according to a Corpus Christi Police Department incident report.
It was not clear how long the infant had been in the car before the baby was found unresponsive, according to the incident report.
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This shit is so sad. I watched a video a few years ago explaining how exhaustion can lead to something like this happening, and it went into detail on how the brain tricks you into thinking that you really did drop your child off at daycare or wherever. It’s terrifying and tragic.
I accidentally left my baby in the car when I went shopping. I was so exhausted that I had forgotten I brought them. I was in the store about 5min and walked past the baby products and a spark went off I’m my head and bolted out of the store to the car. Luckily it was fall and the outside temps were in the 60s F. Never made that mistake again. I was paranoid after that.
My rental car I have right now has a huge obnoxious pop up and alarm when shutting off the vehicle saying to not forget your kids. Technology can solve this issue easily. Just need to have a device fold old vehicles where you plug it into a power point and when your car turns off have a alarm go off. Could be a good shower gift.
Edit: something like this https://a.co/d/4lvtwBP, guess it’s already been invented. I’m gonna get something like this for all the pregnant ladies I know.
My rental car I have right now has a huge obnoxious pop up and alarm when shutting off the vehicle saying to not forget your kids. Technology can solve this issue easily.
Constant warnings when they aren’t needed just leads to them being ignored with everything else. My in law’s car had one that went off every time, even when the backseat was empty. It was as easy to ignore as all of the other pointless warnings that car had.
Yup, we call it alarm fatigue at work.
The sensor in the front seat of my car is pretty good at knowing when a person is there vs something heavy before it throws the seatbelt alert. I’m sure there is a way to configure these alerts to be fairly accurate. Maybe only do it if the back seatbelt is clicked or if it’s clicked and there is a weight threshold reached.
My car goes off of the back doors. If I opened either of the back doors before I get in and drive, it tells me not to forget to check the back seat when I shut the engine off.
My car has like six beeps when it starts up, an additional one when it’s below freezing. I will never hear the additional one. Then five seconds later, my dash cam makes a chime.
Mine has a stupid “you are responsible for the operation of this vehicle” every time it starts up. The absolute stupidest lawyer notice ever.
Like, are you sure the driver is supposed to drive? Thanks!
That’s insane! I talked to someone who bought a new car and she was like “if I look away from the windshield it beeps at me, it’s very annoying”
Like OKAY I AM STOPPED WHAT DO YOU WANT
“distracted driving is… Blah blah blah, yes I accept! Now get the fuck off my screen so I can choose between Rammstein and Tool.”
Best advice I heard for this scenario is to take something you’ll need, wallet, keys, phone, and place it in the car seat with the baby.
See this is ridiculous to me, because I need the baby more than I need any of that shit. I get that accidents happen, and parent brain is weird, lack of sleep and all that. But it’s a lot easier to notice a car seat and baby not weighing down my arm, than it’s slightly more comfortable without my wallet.
I’d definitely notice a missing shoe though.
Coincidentally, my kid would not.
They also make car seats that alert you if they’re buckled when you turn the car off
I read a really good Op-Ed or magazine article a while ago (last few years) that dove into the subject, including the things you mention. Super heartbreaking and hard to simply blame the parent. Wish I could find it again, just so I could share it in threads like these.
Sometimes it’s an accident, sometimes it’s straight up neglect
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did you read that article?
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it’s a really long article that goes into depth on the issue with a lot of anecdotes and research. The gist of it is though that while these people have committed negligence, it happens to people who are otherwise not negligent. It can really happen to anyone, all it takes is some stress or unexpected plans changing.
People should be aware of how easy it can happen to anyone and not pass it off as just bad parents getting what they deserve.
unexpected plans changing.
This is the biggest one I’ve seen.
“Oh X needs to be at Y today so the person who usually takes them to daycare is unavailable, can you take them?”
And then you’re on autopilot, going to work like you do every day. Your body can be trained to do certain things automatically, with basically no mental input on your side. You never take the kid to daycare because your schedule. Then the ONE DAY that your routine changes… It’s one of the most important things you need to keep in mind.
Ever pulled your car into a spot and thought to yourself “wait I don’t remember stopping at any lights HOLY SHIT DID I JUST RUN EVERY RED” but the truth is, no. You did not. Either they are so routine to stop at that you don’t notice on autopilot, or there WERE no reds. You are not a bad or negligent driver. You were on autopilot.
Autopilot doesn’t understand change.
exactly! it’s crazy, like you’re conscious but your mind isn’t recording. And then without that record to reflect on, it’s easy to forget things.
When I drop my kid off I always text some cute thing he did or something but also indicating he is at daycare and when I go in auto even though I drop the kid off and don’t text, I’ll get a text asking about him by the time I’m at work. Its kinda like the whole Japan pointing and calling method they use for safety.
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No one is saying you are free to go. It certainly doesn’t suffice.
It’s not an excuse, it’s an explanation. It can happen to anyone.
I’m not saying anyone in this situation shouldn’t face consequences, but it’s wild how much some people prioritize punishing a parent that just made the most devastating mistake of their life.
I agree.
This person fucked up in the greatest way possible. But they already know that. What’s sitting in jail gonna do?
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Yeah every other story I’ve heard about this says toddler I’m not sure why this headlines is differently
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OP’s name checks out.
Do we have a “JFC Lemmy” sub yet? If not, I nominate this post =p
Bruh 💀
Is this one of those post-birth abortions Republicans keep saying are happening?
OPEC arrested after humans die in hot planet
Arrested by who, everyone is dead.
We need to invent immortal robot overlords to keep arresting people after we’re gone, clearly.
Damn I’m just reading there’s been a second one in the same area. 9-month-old.
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I don’t get how this keeps happening. Kids, dogs, adults, nobody should be left in a hot car. It’s not a freakin’ mystery, it happens all the time!
It keeps happening because people are human and make mistakes.
Best solution I heard to this is to take something you’ll need… wallet, keys, phone, and stick it in the car seat with the baby.
No forgetting.
There should be a shelf on the hood of the car where you can put the baby carrier so you never take your eyes off the baby
“AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”
Isn’t the baby already the thing you’re not supposed to forget? I don’t have children but if i have my dog in my car, my one and only thought is that: “what if i have to park my car somewhere and leave my dog inside?”
This is another c/fuckcars post right there. If they would have walked/cycled/used transit this couldn’t have happened.
I don’t understand the downvotes, it’s a reasonable observation.
In a place like Texas, it is equivalent to saying “if they just used the teleporter this wouldn’t have happened”.
It essentially shifts discussion off the matter at hand, into abstract, unsolvable issues.
Before you jump on “unsolvable”: I mean this mother, this particular family, has no immediate option to take another course, and not use cars.
SOCIETY should move to a less car dependant future. THIS FAMILY has no power to enact that. Saying “just move” is a statement of privilege.
Sure. But that’s not my point. I just see another reason why the US should really think about there way of transport and see it as what it is: (pretty much) the most deadly form of transit possible.
The societal indictment is exactly how I read it. Why would people take it the worst possible way?
It’s not about taking it a certain way.
Its not contextually relevant to the situation of the article.
It’s not conversationally interesting because it’s practically a platitude.
Its not contextually relevant to the situation of the article.
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The “situation” in the article is about one family. Not society. So the comments about infrastructure and car reliance are out of band.
You don’t get to declare a related topic as out of bounds like that.
Because it’s extremely fucked up to assume the person had a choice. Do you generally go around impoverished countries telling children they were stupid for choosing to be born in such a poor area?
That’s not how I read it. Se my other reply.
I’m all in on the fuck cars thing. I’ve wanted to get involved locally advocating for improved public transit and bike lanes. It’s affected how I’ve ranked local candidates while voting.
That said, this happened in Texas. The vast majority of that state is so carbrained that there aren’t any viable alternatives to driving right now, and for a mother with kids it’s so far away it’d take decades of work even if all of the Texas government woke up tomorrow and dedicated themselves to alternatives to cars. I don’t drive and I live in one of the best cities for cyclists in the US and I’d still find it tough to go without a car if I had kids.
In context the fuck cars comment just kinda comes across as victim blamey, tbh.
That argument applies to virtually the entire country, zoned specifically to sell cars, with few recent exceptions. I’m not blaming the mom for that situation, I’m not sure why anyone would think that. This is just another death that seems to at least partially implicate big oil, big auto, and corrupt politicians.
Completely avoidable. This should NEVER happen. That woman SHOULD be in prison.
Edit: Wow. Wasn’t expecting all the downvotes but I’m sticking to my guns on this one. If your child neglect results in the death of the child you should absolutely go to prison.
Most of these things are accidents due to exhaustion from the systemic grind. You don’t know nearly enough to talk like that.
Avoidable yes, should never happen yes, but what purpose does prison serve here?
I’m not advocating for this, but obvious answer here would be at least temporary prevention of repeat events.
Has there ever been someone that this has happened to twice?
Happens with neglectful child abuse all the time yes
So not this, but other things?
You conclusion does not follow from the premises. Please develop your abilities to reason using syllogisms.
Shouldn’t happen in modern cars, keep a running thermal sensor, weight and accelerometer sensor in seat, send alert if weight remains and any accelormeter activity when temp above danger threshold. I do not think this is required but should be.
