• PostingInPublic@lemmy.world
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    “I’m deathly afraid of the gay, is there any gay in the game? Because I don’t know what will happen if I’m confronted with the gay!!!”

    “Calm down, nothing in there is going to remind you of these urges of yours, play away.”

    My translation.

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      So the guy in the pic is just a homophobic bigot? Or homophobic but also sexist, on account of the female characters looking as worn as the male characters? I’m too old to understand what woke means, but the guy’s post is also confusing to read.

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        Nobody knows what woke actually means in cases like these because it basically signifies “anything I don’t like or agree with”.

        It usually means you aren’t racist, you don’t hate gay people or any other member of the lgbt community, and treat women fairly. So like… a decent human being.

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    If you’re that worried, just don’t play it because that apparently would be the only thing on your mind the whole time playing BG3

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    When someone says “woke” I immediately assume that they have an opinion of the thing in question that they know will be seen as sexist, racist or -phobic in some way that if they said directly would get them called out on.

    It’s just another cowards way of saying “I’m not racist but…”

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        Thus successfully agitating liberals into censoring a word that originally was created by the black community to highlight the calling out of systemic racism and it’s lasting effects on society.

        Which means the assholes win.

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            He’s saying if some is considered a slur, then it will be censored, if it’s censored then you get odd looking and confusing sentences like that

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      I think it’s gotten to the point that anyone who actually uses “woke” as an insult just looks completely ridiculous now.

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        Like what? what don’t you appreciate? What exactly and specifically about it is bullshit? Are we too afraid to say what we actually hate about the content being presented?

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        Depends on what you consider bullshit. And if you complain about woke you probably have stupid opinions.

        True that some ‘woke’ game suck, like that most recent saint’s row. But that’s because the writing is terrible, not because it includes minorities. Just an example

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        The bullshit wouldn’t be pushed if marginalized people in our society would be treated the same as everyone else and you know it. Grow up and stop being annoyed with black mermaids ffs

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      That’s probably a fair assumption at this point, but I wish there was a word for egregiously obnoxious shoehorning of culture war stuff that wouldn’t get immediately diluted into a generic partisan shibboleth. For instance when they were doing the Enhanced Edition of the first games, and using the characters as mouthpieces to break the fourth wall to whine about gamergate, I don’t think you really have to be a bigot to be annoyed by it or want to put a label on that sort of thing.

      • alterforlett @lemmy.world
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        Still is. If someone who doesn’t think anyone else but white, straight people are allowed representation in our diverse world calls you woke as a slur, you wear that as a badge of honor

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        “Woke” apparently means being aware of systemic societal issues, and wanting to fix them. I’ll gladly wear that “insult”.

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      Ten years ago it was called “politics”.

      Keep women and non-Anglo Saxon people politics out of my war games based on real world conflicts - Gamer™

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            That’s the beauty of freedom. You are free to use it. Other people are free to shun you for being a fucking racist bigot.

            Freedom is grand.

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            I don’t use it because I’m not black so it would be racist for me to… But you do you.

            Also I just don’t have the desire to use it.

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        “Political”

        White and political.
        Male and political.
        Straight and political.
        Christian and political.

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    There should be a firefox extension that replaces the word “woke” with something crazy like “alien” or nonsensical like “gluten free”

    Since the term means anything you want it to, might as well replace the word itself to anything you want. It’s kind like the extension that replaces the word “millennials” with “snake people.”

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      Since the term means anything you want it to

      I mean, I think it’s been fairly consistently used to mean “breaks my patriarchal white supremacy fantasy”.

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    Peering into my crystal ball, I can see that after release there will be at least one post on here showing these guys and their ilk complaining that you have the option to make a trans/nonbinary character. People gave Solasta negative reviews for letting you pick your pronouns

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      It never meant anything. It is just a slur word invented by right wingers for when they face repercussions for their bigotry. They regularly switch out the word when they think it has outlived its usefulness. Older terms were PC and SJW. None of them meant anything.

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        Used to be it meant “not asleep”, in that you were aware of social injustices: a la “wake up sheeple!”

        But it was co-opted by right-wingers as a catch-all term like “political correctness”, and has since lost the original meaning.

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        Shit man, that means even the original WoW was pretty woke with all the same sex avatar simulating rubbing on Ironforge.

        Given all the cross-species simulated sex going on (like dwarfs doing it with elves), same sex, different sexes, thresomes and more-somes it was hugelly woke even by today’s “standards”.

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          Most things are “woke” by modern bigots. That’s OK. We should always points out to conservatives that most things are woke so they GTFO and leave us alone.

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            Oh, man, you misread me like crazy.

            There are a lot more than only 2 viewpoints on anything of any complexity, such as social issues.

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      Depends on your definition, but doesn’t appear to be. The developers haven’t gone out of their way to ham-fist any ideological messaging into the game, while allowing people to craft whatever character and story they like. Still, few people have actually played the game, so we won’t know until it drops.

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      The only people concerned about wokeness are the same exact people who perpetuate the same old White Fright/Satanic Panic insane conservative bigotry. If you have to ask, yes, Baldur’s Gate is woke. That game is SO woke it will actually FORCE your children to turn into gay black trans ANTIFA supersoldiers hellbent on eradicating America. If you don’t want to play a woke game, do not play Baldur’s Gate 3. Don’t play the first two either - I did as a child, and now I make sarcastic posts trying to piss off humanity’s worst. BG has always been a video game series intent on pushing the librulgenda.

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    appreciate you posting this because it brings out all the g*mers and makes it easy for me to snipe them 🙏

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    Actually, the reply is from a woke person who is trying to start shit by saying woke people are false-flagging wokeness free games, so that you’ll accidentally play and get indoctrinated by a woke game.

    • NotAGuyInAHat@lemmy.worldBanned
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      Right? There’s a gay bear mage! That’s as “woke” as it can get judging by whatever they define “woke” as today

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        Gale or Wyll? I guess I wouldn’t describe either of them as a bear.

        Or maybe you made your own gay bear mage. Or maybe you’re rolling a druid and literally making a gay bear.

        Sounds pretty woke to me.

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    Isn’t fantasy regularly used to parallel real world issues. Elves are constantly treated as a minority group for instance.

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      Fantasy and sci-fi both. There are exceptions. Starship Troopers (the novel) is very right wing and Narnia is christian-y, for example.

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          The novel is more satirical. Over the years I’ve heard complaints that the people who made the movie, either intentionally or unintentionally, toned down the satirical aspect of the humor too much and dummies might consider it an endorsement of that kind of society.

          Edit: after taking another look at his comment I think tigbitties is just saying the world of Starship Troopers is right-wing, not the message.

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            Yeah, satire can be difficult to calibrate. The difference between fanatical and satirical support can be hard to spot. Or just over the top characters for the sake of entertainment without any intended message. And you might be right that it was about the world rather than the intent.

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      Well it’s usually high elves that are the rich elite, while wood elves and basically everything other than humans are the minorities, and humans are the “middle class”.

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    It contains women and POC not being completely subservient to the nearest white man at all times and so they consider it “woke”

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            What if my religion says you shouldn’t go around fuckin’ bears tho?

            Then would you give up your bear-fuckin’?

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              MY religion says I must support bear fuckers at all costs. So I guess it’s a religious war.

              I don’t have time for something like that though. If I send you an Amazon gift of several bags of salt, could you kindly spread that over your fields for me? And then send a reaction video, maybe gift me some candles for my curtains and I’ll do the same.

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              My religion says “if he’s a bear, it’s gay, unless he’s a literal bear” but wildshaping was not known to the sages so we must mediate on this.

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    The entire side-taking on this shit is one giant circle jerk (and not even in a good way) and distraction from the increasing and very much equal-opportunity fucking (again, not even in a good way) of everybody who didn’t pop-out of the vagina of somebody who is rich.

    What exactly is the problem with making and enjoying games without trying to reduce all its dimensions to a single-dimensional Identitarian Politics interpretation?

    I feel like somebody on the sidelines watching two groups of fans of two different soccer teams beating each other senseless because they disagree on a decision by the referee, all sense of proportion or the true importance of, well, everything else, lost.

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        The entirety of human experience and human condition does not fit into 2 “sides”, not even close, so it’s quite the acephalic approach to look at everything through the prism of a very specific one-dimensional line with only 2 sides.

        Absolutelly, have Principles, follow those Principles and then judge things according to those Principles when they do apply.

        Reducing everything of importance to “sides”, on the other hand, is not being principled, it’s being mindlessly tribalist.

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          It is funny that you assume you are the only one with “Principles”, and then strawmanning the shit out of the opinions of everyone else.

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            You just stated something about what’s going on in my mind, which I did not state (i.e. I did not state that “I’m the only one with principles”, not even close, and actually implied they do but go for tribalistic side-taking instead), and then you argued against that very own imaginary position you claimed I had, using an “argument” involving strawmen.

            I hope you can spot the irony if you think about it enough.

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      There’s no “both sides” about this. The entire woke bs is a fabrication of right wingers.