• 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    I’ve bought and paid for every civ game since civ3…

    I even paid for civ4 twice. Boxed CD and on steam… And now you’re going to treat me like a criminal with shitty DRM??? Welp, i guess i’m not buying Civ7, Sid…

    No more turns…

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    18 days ago

    DRM has never stopped me from pirating a game, but multiple times it stopped me from buying it.

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      I remember one moment where I knew that I would be without internet for a week, so I bought and downloaded a few singe player games. Only for some of them to require an internet connection because of DRM.

      I used my phone for internet so I could pirate them, and you wouldn’t believe it but I could suddenly play them offline. I never bought anything from that publisher again.

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        18 days ago

        until they are inevitably cracked (which has been done with many denuvo games already) and pirates enjoy better performance once again.

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          17 days ago

          That’s the (unknown) future. But currently they are not cracked. Hence you can’t pirate them.

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          I used to pirate back in the day and the fact that you no longer had updates or fixes was a huge issue. It’s actually the number one reason I no longer pirate games. It’s not worth my time or frustration to deal with a virus, bad crack or crashing game. Also since I stopped pirating I’ve had exactly 0 malware/trojan infections.

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            I pirate all the time. Until recently mostly on public trackers. Had malware once when I was like 12 and that’s about it. Sounds like a skill issue. Also, most cracked games get updates.

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          17 days ago

          I’ll name you 10: Street Fighter 6, Star Wars Squadrons, Star Wars jedi survivor, Persona 3 Reloaded, Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown, Like A Dragon Gaiden - The Man Who Erased His Name Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora Persona 5 Tactica Dragon’s Dogma 2 Assassins Creed Mirage

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            18 days ago

            … I hate to out myself here but I have played some of those games cracked.

            I mean there was even a whole thing on Far cry 6 running better cracked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohLnGG92usI

            And RE Village https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSMXhdPeCfk And Hogwarts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_bab5wtHY

            I looked up Nier: Replicant and yeah, also cracked (I will not share as I think that breaks rules)

            EDIT: Also in the link you provided:

            "Did Hogwarts Legacy remove Denuvo?

            Notorious game cracker has removed Denuvo from Hogwarts Legacy after just two weeks."

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              18 days ago

              Hey, I don’t judge. I might only pirate media I’ve already bought (like when I couldn’t find my copy of a movie) but firmly agree with Gabe Newell that piracy is a service issue first and foremost. Additionally if you can’t own the game you buy I can’t view it as stealing. If there is a crack for Civ 7 or Dragons Dogma 2, I’ll probably buy a copy then get the cracked version for performance.

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            18 days ago

            I for sure play HL cracked days after release. I haven’t touched the others though.

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          The only one I know is Street Fighter 6 (over a year after release too) but I’m sure there’s at least two others. Your point is made, however.

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    18 days ago

    Better pick the correct Proton version from the get-go then Linux users, switching it more than 4-5 times within 24 hours or so will trigger Denuvo blocking the game from starting.

    Or just don’t buy this crap :)

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    18 days ago

    Sometimes I wonder why companies make decisions like this. But then I remember just how many completely braindead executives are out there.

    At least it’s not denuvo anti cheat but their anti tamper is bad enough. Civ 6 is my most played game and I guess I’ll have more time to play it now after all… It’s really too bad I was very excited to try out the new features they’ve added.

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      18 days ago

      If you like the new features you can always just go ahead and play some Endless Legends, most of it is from there

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        18 days ago

        Endless legend is undoubtedly a great game but I never liked the hero thing they have going on unfortunately.

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          17 days ago

          Well Civ 7 will be very similar with the generals, what I didnt like personally was managing the items for the units and stuff

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      18 days ago

      You might want to try Humankind then. Sounds like Civ 7 is basically copying the ideas from it anyway

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        18 days ago

        I’ve played humankind quite a bit actually. I had fun for a while but although I liked the idea at first I don’t love the leader switching system as it is implemented in humankind.

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      I really liked 5, but I never got 6 and don’t plan on getting 7. Honestly, I’m not into what they offer anymore. There’s other civ-likes out there now, and there’s other genres I’d rather play anyway. I was watching civ 7 with some interest still, but for sure not with this.

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        I’ve been playing them since the first game and I don’t think I’ve truly loved any of them since 4. So even though I’ve bought them all thus far, it is pretty easy to skip one of I don’t like where they go. No games series can last forever.

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    We shall wait for our arrested development queen empress. May she mercifully release with the nfo slur count under ten

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    Soooo, this means Civ 7 will now 100% be ripped off and pirated.

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        Yeah exactly, from my understanding these are some of the most popular and best selling games around so… completely unnecessary

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        It’s also that their monetization scheme begets piracy. A game and the dlc for it should never cost more than $100

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          That’s a strange hill to die on. I mean sure I will also never buy this game but with inflation it’s just a matter of time.

          I would much rather have a higher initial cost with no macro transactions in game.

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    Interesting that they looked at Humankind and aped only its worst design decisions lol.

    If you don’t choose one civilization to play through to the end I’m out.