Memory Alpha’s riot timeline:

Early in the morning of September 1st, a fight between a guard and a dim sparked a riot, wherein the ghosts led by B.C. attacked the Sanctuary guards and quickly captured the Sanctuary Processing Center as well as the rest of the district. Armed with the weapons of the overpowered guards, the ghosts took six center employees hostage, including Vin, Calvera, and Lee. They were joined by “Gabriel Bell” and Michael Webb, who acted as the voice and face of the riot while dealing with police negotiator Detective Preston.

Chris Brynner, who owned Brynner Information Systems (which operated Channel 90 on the net), was convinced by Dax to break the law and to reconnect the Processing Center after the police cut it off. Reconnected on September 2nd, many Sanctuary residents (such as Henry Garcia) were able to tell their stories of imprisonment to the outside world. As a result, the American public became aware of the great injustice that had been hidden from them and further riots broke out in Sanctuaries across the US.

Despite protests from Detective Preston, the governor of California ordered National Guardsmen to retake the Sanctuary by force on September 3rd at 0500 hours. In the melee, hundreds of Sanctuary residents were killed, including B.C. and Michael Webb. “Gabriel Bell” was shot, protecting Vin and the other hostages (all of whom remained unharmed).

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Bell_Riots

  • jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org
    147·
    3 months ago

    For most of this year, it has been just a meme, but people have gotten more and more reasons to actually riot. That makes me sad. Please don’t actually riot.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
      24·
      3 months ago

      but people have gotten more and more reasons to actually riot. That makes me sad. Please don’t actually riot.

      So despite knowing that there are reasons to riot — even good ones — you’d prefer that society stay in the state that it is in?

      “Pls maintain status quo, I’m scared of change”

      • Stampela@startrek.websiteEnglish
        8·
        3 months ago

        No, but Star Trek shows us we can change for the better. I’m not saying I have a solution to offer, but violence shouldn’t be encouraged or pushed higher up in the list of things to try…

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          12·
          3 months ago

          Whops I responded to a wrong comment before.

          Anyway.

          Data on political violence

          Lt. Commander Data : But if that is so, Captain, why are their methods so often successful? I’ve been reviewing the history of armed rebellion, and it appears that terrorism is an effective way to promote political change.

          Captain Jean-Luc Picard : Yes, it can be. But I have never subscribed to the theory that political power flows from the barrel of a gun.

          Lt. Commander Data : Yet there are numerous examples when it was successful; the independence of the Mexican state from Spain, the Irish Unification of 2024, and the Kenzie Rebellion.

          Captain Jean-Luc Picard : Yes, I am aware of them.

          Lt. Commander Data : Then would it be accurate to say that terrorism is acceptable, when all options for peaceful settlement have been foreclosed?

          Captain Jean-Luc Picard : Data, these are questions that mankind has been struggling with throughout history. Your confusion is… only Human.

          • Stampela@startrek.websiteEnglish
            6·
            3 months ago

            Well, you replied to the original poster so that’s hardly a mistake :)

            The thing is that I agree. I don’t see Star Trek being a realistic future in any way, unfortunately. Now, the Terran empire on the other hand, minus the space faring stuff? Can’t be too far away. Doesn’t change my thoughts about violence though.

            • Dasus@lemmy.world
              9·
              3 months ago

              Based on nothing else than “nothing ever goes well”? You do remember that even in Star Trek, the early 21st century was garbage, historically?

              There’s the post-atomic horror, but we get to meet a few aliens who will help us slowly get back on track.

              Just like with the bad predictions about the internet, if one were to jokingly interpret ST as prophecy, one could say that maybe they had the gist of it, but the details wrong. It’s probably not Vulcans we’ll meet, but perhaps we can manage to upturn the prohibition of ecstasy, LSD, shrooms etc and through that, we’ll notice a marked difference in the world when people aren’t getting drunk anymore and fighting, but rolling, being nice to everyone, etc. Deep cultural paradigm shift that’s comparable to meeting Vulcans (who are more or less human).

              Maybe don’t give into the apathy and it won’t win as easily.

              • Stampela@startrek.websiteEnglish
                21·
                3 months ago

                This is a far larger discussion than I’m willing to get into, and I know it’s not one that’ll cheer me up too, so I’m going to bow out of it while in agreement with

                don’t give into the apathy and it won’t win as easily.

                That’s why in a many countries we still have a right to vote. :)

                • Dasus@lemmy.world
                  6·
                  3 months ago

                  Elections don’t make a democracy. Fair ones can do, though.

                  https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-parliament-elects-xi-jinping-chinas-president-2023-03-10/

                  That’s why in a many countries we still have a right to vote. :)

                  Because I said you shouldn’t give into apathy…? No. Because you think people haven’t given into apathy? “It’s not as shit as it COULD be”? Because I think that is a somewhat strong indicator that you’re already an apathetic pessimist.

                  “I’m not willing to get into it” <— case in point

                  • Stampela@startrek.websiteEnglish
                    1·
                    3 months ago

                    I don’t consider voting just for show as actually voting, so when I say that I mean fair elections. Voting is how you don’t give in to apathy (about this stuff anyway), as the entire concept is there to allow some action, a push for change.

                    pessimist

                    Quite the sugar coating, but yeah. That is correct.

                  • marcos@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    3 months ago

                    Fair ones can do, though.

                    You need so much stuff besides the elections that it’s not even clear if elections are the result or a causal element of democracy.

      • jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org
        8·
        3 months ago

        I am legitimately frightened that it might happen. Though, in a sense, it would be epic if the Irish came together and told the rest of the world what they thought with Guinness and rude gestures before it happened.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOPM
          9·
          3 months ago

          Now I wanted to say something about the fact that we have lived over these last two or three summers with agony and we have seen our cities going up in flames. And I would be the first to say that I am still committed to militant, powerful, massive, non­-violence as the most potent weapon in grappling with the problem from a direct action point of view. I’m absolutely convinced that a riot merely intensifies the fears of the white community while relieving the guilt. And I feel that we must always work with an effective, powerful weapon and method that brings about tangible results. But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.

          – Dr. Martin Luther King, speech to Grosse Point High School. March 14, 1968.

          https://www.gphistorical.org/mlk/mlkspeech/

          Something for you to consider.

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          5·
          3 months ago

          Data on political violence

          Lt. Commander Data : But if that is so, Captain, why are their methods so often successful? I’ve been reviewing the history of armed rebellion, and it appears that terrorism is an effective way to promote political change.

          Captain Jean-Luc Picard : Yes, it can be. But I have never subscribed to the theory that political power flows from the barrel of a gun.

          Lt. Commander Data : Yet there are numerous examples when it was successful; the independence of the Mexican state from Spain, the Irish Unification of 2024, and the Kenzie Rebellion.

          Captain Jean-Luc Picard : Yes, I am aware of them.

          Lt. Commander Data : Then would it be accurate to say that terrorism is acceptable, when all options for peaceful settlement have been foreclosed?

          Captain Jean-Luc Picard : Data, these are questions that mankind has been struggling with throughout history. Your confusion is… only Human.

    • bradorsomething@ttrpg.network
      8·
      3 months ago

      Narrator: and that one post on Lemmy changed the time line - there were no Bell Riots, and mankind did not change their outlook on compassion and social unity.