Two main problems I have with cast iron - the care that they take is too much effort, and their constant risk of rusting if they’re not coated in oil at all times is just too much bullshit to deal with for a kitchen tool. The other issue is that I try as best as I can to do oil-free cooking, and cast iron is antithetical to that.
A baking sheet with parchment paper, in a toaster oven, is significantly more convenient.
Two main problems I have with cast iron - the care that they take is too much effort, and their constant risk of rusting if they’re not coated in oil at all times is just too much bullshit to deal with for a kitchen tool.
I don’t use cast iron either they’re heavy and I generally don’t need the heat capacity. Think De Buyer Mineral B, in that direction.
Care+feeding in the usual case consists of as little as wiping them down with some kitchen tissue, or holding them under water and rummaging around a bit with a bristle brush (don’t use a plastic one they can’t take the heat), then re-applying oil which is literally a second of work. In nasty cases, steel wool instead of brush.
Explaining all that took longer than actually doing it. Residual heat does most of the work: Evaporating left-over water. It might also already polymerise the new oil a bit, but generally that’s done when you heat the pan up rule of thumb if it’s not smoking off then you aren’t frying at temperature.
Also it’s not like the pan would break instantly if you leave it out without a coat of oil. Some fly rust, is all, nothing serious. Scrub it off with steel wool or leave it on it actually doesn’t matter iron oxide won’t kill you.
The other issue is that I try as best as I can to do oil-free cooking, and cast iron is antithetical to that.
Vilifying fat is a ploy of the sugar and tobacco industry. Literally, it’s all well-documented: The sugar industry to sell more sugar, the tobacco industry to blame the epidemic of heart disease on anything but smoking.
Also we’re talking about drops, you do not need more than a thin film on the thing. Thin as in “try to get it all off with kitchen tissue”. If you burn it off when heating though you need to add some more before adding ingredients, what the Chinese call “hot wok, cold oil”, it’s a simple and reliable way to get excellent anti-stick. You don’t need Chinese amounts of oil for that, maybe a tablespoon (actual one not those strange US measurements).
Sorry, but this is dangerous misinformation that you’re spreading. Refined carbohydrates are harmful and can contribute to the various forms of metabolic syndrome. However one thing being bad doesn’t automatically make something good, and there is still no single factor in heart disease that’s more causally linked than saturated fats. To demonize sugar and say fats don’t play the most significant role is about equivalent with being a climate change denier.
They’re somewhat more on the frontier of nutritional science, but no other interventions out there have had as promising of results as Esselstyn’s and Ornish’s lifestyle medicine practices - both of which call for reductions or even eliminations of cooking oil that is considered radical by most people’s standards. But their results speak for themselves.
and there is still no single factor in heart disease that’s more causally linked than saturated fats.
High blood pressure, smoking, diabetes/overweight/inactive, are the main risk factors. High cholesterol has been debunked not to mention that dietary cholesterol has no correlation with blood cholesterol.
Saturated fats are fine, our nutritional woes didn’t start when we started eating butter that was millennia ago. Various trans-fats are right-out evil and hydrogenated fats should be avoided the data still isn’t particularly clear on those.
Like, you’re attacking pretty much any nut fat when you’re attacking saturated fats. No, coconuts are not responsible for modern levels of heart disease Samoans didn’t have the absurdly high levels they currently have when they still were, in fact, eating much more coconuts and much less simple carbs. Similar with Inuit.
but no other interventions out there have had as promising of results as Esselstyn’s and Ornish’s lifestyle medicine practice
You sound like a brochure. If you want to convince me of that kind of claim link an independent metastudy. You’re on /c/science_memes, remember.
Two main problems I have with cast iron - the care that they take is too much effort, and their constant risk of rusting if they’re not coated in oil at all times is just too much bullshit to deal with for a kitchen tool. The other issue is that I try as best as I can to do oil-free cooking, and cast iron is antithetical to that.
A baking sheet with parchment paper, in a toaster oven, is significantly more convenient.
I don’t use cast iron either they’re heavy and I generally don’t need the heat capacity. Think De Buyer Mineral B, in that direction.
Care+feeding in the usual case consists of as little as wiping them down with some kitchen tissue, or holding them under water and rummaging around a bit with a bristle brush (don’t use a plastic one they can’t take the heat), then re-applying oil which is literally a second of work. In nasty cases, steel wool instead of brush.
Explaining all that took longer than actually doing it. Residual heat does most of the work: Evaporating left-over water. It might also already polymerise the new oil a bit, but generally that’s done when you heat the pan up rule of thumb if it’s not smoking off then you aren’t frying at temperature.
Also it’s not like the pan would break instantly if you leave it out without a coat of oil. Some fly rust, is all, nothing serious. Scrub it off with steel wool or leave it on it actually doesn’t matter iron oxide won’t kill you.
Vilifying fat is a ploy of the sugar and tobacco industry. Literally, it’s all well-documented: The sugar industry to sell more sugar, the tobacco industry to blame the epidemic of heart disease on anything but smoking.
Also we’re talking about drops, you do not need more than a thin film on the thing. Thin as in “try to get it all off with kitchen tissue”. If you burn it off when heating though you need to add some more before adding ingredients, what the Chinese call “hot wok, cold oil”, it’s a simple and reliable way to get excellent anti-stick. You don’t need Chinese amounts of oil for that, maybe a tablespoon (actual one not those strange US measurements).
Sorry, but this is dangerous misinformation that you’re spreading. Refined carbohydrates are harmful and can contribute to the various forms of metabolic syndrome. However one thing being bad doesn’t automatically make something good, and there is still no single factor in heart disease that’s more causally linked than saturated fats. To demonize sugar and say fats don’t play the most significant role is about equivalent with being a climate change denier.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OkqWdY5_2-8
They’re somewhat more on the frontier of nutritional science, but no other interventions out there have had as promising of results as Esselstyn’s and Ornish’s lifestyle medicine practices - both of which call for reductions or even eliminations of cooking oil that is considered radical by most people’s standards. But their results speak for themselves.
https://www.dresselstyn.com/site/
https://ornish.com/
High blood pressure, smoking, diabetes/overweight/inactive, are the main risk factors. High cholesterol has been debunked not to mention that dietary cholesterol has no correlation with blood cholesterol.
Saturated fats are fine, our nutritional woes didn’t start when we started eating butter that was millennia ago. Various trans-fats are right-out evil and hydrogenated fats should be avoided the data still isn’t particularly clear on those.
Like, you’re attacking pretty much any nut fat when you’re attacking saturated fats. No, coconuts are not responsible for modern levels of heart disease Samoans didn’t have the absurdly high levels they currently have when they still were, in fact, eating much more coconuts and much less simple carbs. Similar with Inuit.
You sound like a brochure. If you want to convince me of that kind of claim link an independent metastudy. You’re on /c/science_memes, remember.