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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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      convenience xcancel link

      fucking Mozilla really is going all in on this whole ā€œyou canā€™t trust AI, except when we and our business partners do itā€ openwashing thing completely unaware of how it looks, huh? like, theyā€™ve pushed AI so hard and violated so much community trust in the process that I canā€™t imagine this is doing anything but costing them their remaining donors.

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        who is the investor who pushed Mozilla this hard? where the fuck is this coming from?

        all their hiring is AI too

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          havenā€™t really had the headspace to dig into this but one of my hypotheticals about how this could come to pass is ā€œnot enough counter-friction leftā€. foundations of the guess are: years of ill-advised products, constant killing of worthwhile projects, creep of bayfucker mentality. that shape of thing

          I recall seeing people ringing alarm bells about moz ceo pay like 3~4y ago

          not that the above guess eliminates the thing youā€™re pointing to, mind you. I agree that this drive has to be coming from somewhere. my stuff was more coming at it from the ā€œwhy has this suddenly accelerated so muchā€ angle

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            I recall seeing people ringing alarm bells about moz ceo pay like 3~4y ago

            remember when bringing up Mozillaā€™s financials would get you yelled at by people who needed to see them as a paragon of open source in spite of all evidence to the contrary?

            my personal theory for why itā€™s accelerating so much is, their board might be doing a Sears[1]. theyā€™re inventing ways to make Mozilla bankrupt because thereā€™s profit in it, and that profit window might be closing rapidly with the antitrust actions against Google coming up. this is all based on vibes though, Iā€™m the polar opposite of an accountant

            [1] see also, doing a Red Lobster. no, endless shrimp isnā€™t why theyā€™re going bankrupt, why in fuck would it be, of course itā€™s capitalists

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              For some reason, the news of Red Lobsterā€™s bankruptcy seems like a long time ago. I would have sworn that I read this story about it before the solar eclipse.

              Of course, the actual reasons Red Lobster is circling the drain are more complicated than a runaway shrimp promotion. Business Insiderā€™s Emily Stewart explained the long pattern of bad financial decisions that spelled doom for the restaurantā€”the worst of all being the divestment of Red Lobsterā€™s property holdings in order to rent them back on punitive leases, adding massive overhead. (As Ray Kroc knows, youā€™re in the real estate business!) But after talking to many Red Lobster employees over the past monthā€”some of whom were laid off without any notice last weekā€”what I can say with confidence is that the Endless Shrimp deal was hell on earth for the servers, cooks, and bussers whoā€™ve been keeping Red Lobster afloat. They told me the deal was a fitting capstone to an iconic if deeply mediocre chain thatā€™s been drifting out to sea for some time. [ā€¦] ā€œYou had groups coming in expecting to feed their whole family with one order of endless shrimp,ā€ Josie said. ā€œI would get screamed at.ā€ She already had her share of Cheddar Bay Biscuit battle stories, but the shrimp was something else: ā€œIt tops any customer service experience Iā€™ve had. Some people are just a different type of stupid, and they all wander into Red Lobster.ā€

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                Some people are just a different type of stupid, and they all wander into Red Lobster.

                I dated someone who worked at Red Lobster, and that absolutely checks out. the number of people whoā€™d come in hoping to grift free shit and take it out on the servers when they didnā€™t get it (or would try and get someone fired so they could get free shit, depending on the night) was astounding

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              remember when bringing up Mozillaā€™s financials would get you yelled at by people who needed to see them as a paragon of open source in spite of all evidence to the contrary?

              yup. absolutely nuts shit. I know thereā€™s often a lament to lack of nuance in contemporary internet but god damn if there isnā€™t also a massive shortage of critical thinking skills and the ability to engage with criticism well