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    How old do you think the women on pornhub are? What makes them more acceptable to look at over the women on instagram? I mean if we’re talking about dudes perving on private social media accounts of 15 year olds, yeah of course that’s fucked up. But that isn’t at all the implication I got here, rather I assumed he’s talking about OnlyFans models and other young women (not girls) who are offering their looks as a product, like Yellz0 or Kaitlyn Krems. In that case, this is extremely normal, and not really any different than the nearly 100 years of Hollywood; or did you assume the beautiful young starlets were only meant to appeal to their age peers (despite being cast and promoted by primarily older men)?

    Hollywood, magazines, art, sales catalogues, and pornography; they are all selling the sexual appeal of young adulthood. And so long as the men and women being gazed at are willingly and consensually offering the display of their body, and they’re of legal and intellectual ability to consent, then nobody is being wronged here, and nobody is behaving abnormally. These women deserve respect (as do the women on pornhub, to be clear; I’m still trying to understand what separates the two entities to you), and stepping over established boundaries, personal or social, is not okay obviously, but assuming the caveats I’ve outlined, I see nothing disrespectful about buying what somebody is willfully selling.

    As for the age gap… look, we can pretend to be this perfectly evolved species of always equitable and simple moral choices while ignoring literally the whole of human history which heavily implies an attraction in humans to young adulthood that doesn’t seem to wean with age, or we can accept reality for what it is, warts and all. Personally for me, I just don’t see how infantilizing young adults as if they are helpless children in need of constant coddling and viewing every relationship as an inherent competition of power and experience where any imbalance implies irreconcilable differences benefits us as a society.

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        Okay, I’ll try to make it more appropriate for you. Ahem:

        Why woman sell sex on pornhub okay, but women sell sex on instagram bad?

        Also human think young adult sexy. Always, but also now.

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          Not op, but imma be honest with you, I’m currently drunk at an airport bar and I appreciate the absolute fuck out of this tldr

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          You assume they’re following sex workers on instagram. Nowhere in post it say that. Plenty of weird dudes out there

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            Young adult women who post thirst traps are looking to be looked at. Especially if they aren’t on a private profile.

            It’s normal for men of all ages to look at women who consent with open permissions.

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            Yellz0 and Kaitlyn Krems are not “sex workers,” unless you expand the term so broadly so as to include anyone offering titillation, at which point every model and most actors would fall under it as well.

            So no, I am specifically not assuming they follow sex workers, I am assuming they follow people who offer titillating content, as expressed.

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              Actually you’re full of it. I went back and read that and you literally said OnlyFans models. Don’t play with me old man

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                Are Hallie Berry, Drew Barrymore, Alexandria Daddario, Madonna, the singer Pink, or countless other people who have posed for commercial available photoshoots or video scenes “sex workers”?

                If no, I’m going to need you to articulate how they aren’t but Instagram and non-nude OF models somehow are.

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                  If you’re asking whether I class someone posting lewd photographs for money as a sex worker the answer is yes it’s not complicated

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                    I believe I specifically asked you to articulate how the people I mentioned aren’t sex workers but Instagram and non-nude OF models somehow are.