Can you get through a working day without a burning unneeded desire to regulate yet another thing that shouldn’t be regulated?
The amount of stuff governments are already regulating is, like, 5000% of what actually should be regulated. The remaining stuff can get by with the 20% of the existing regulation. And don’t even begin to play the game of regulating private education into shape when what you need is a working public one.
You’re so right!! Remember in the early 80’s when they deregulated the Savings and Loan Banks, expanding their authority to make loans and reducing regulatory oversight? What a great idea, that was. Getting rid of those unnecessary regulations really stimulated greedy white collar and political criminals, they stole everything they could until the whole system crashed, and that deregulation ended up costing taxpayers a 160 to 175 billion bailout in today’s dollars.
What a deal, right? What a boon to the economy, what a next level brain you’re working with. You know, every time we hear someone cry about the need to deregulate, it’s either a pirateer looking to steal more money from the taxpayers, or a useful idiot who drank their kool-aid.
I was in Finance when the first part of the outcome of that shit hit in 2008 and subsequent years (and I say “first part” because we’re still living it and it looks a lot like there are still more 3rd and further order consequences of it unfolding for people) and damn, that shit really forced me to realize just how evil and hypocrite neoliberalism and neoliberals really are.
By the way, I absolutely counted as an “useful idiot” up to then.
I would call myself an Anarchist. You’re the stupid person people think of when they hear the word, and it’s sad. Government regulation is absolutely required to protect people from losing power. Power structures are generally bad, which is why we need government to prevent them from forming in the background. When this doesn’t happen then people lose power because their options are removed so others can profit off of them easier.
You won’t win this one here. Lemmy is disappointingly facebook-like in terms of their seemingly endless desire to be told what to do every step of their lives.
I realise the numbers are sort of made up, but in general I fully agree. I do sometimes think that politicians regulate for the sake of it, as if justifying their existence.
I think there are three groups. There’s the tankies that got deplatformed and created Lemmy to have a platform with no corporate owner. There’s the reddit refugees who wanted to get away from corporate controlled social media. Finally, there’s assholes who got deplatformed because they’re assholes. They aren’t philosophically in favor of the freedom of the fediverse, just that it gives them a means to keep being bad people that no one else allows.
Here’s the issue. Lemmy users are very against people losing control of their lives in general, contrary to what you imply. Most people here are against people losing control. The issue is, it’s not only the government that can do this. Corporations, businesses, and other entities can take it away too. We need the government to regulate these things to protect people. I don’t care to protect businesses. People should be free to do damn near anything they want as long as it doesn’t hurt others. A company/their employer should not be able to prevent them from doing what they want.
You don’t want freedom. You want another kind of control over you.
I find it eloquently said that oppressors can be public and private. People seem keen to trade public for private oppression. Humanity deserves less oppression of all forms.
Can you get through a working day without a burning unneeded desire to regulate yet another thing that shouldn’t be regulated?
The amount of stuff governments are already regulating is, like, 5000% of what actually should be regulated. The remaining stuff can get by with the 20% of the existing regulation. And don’t even begin to play the game of regulating private education into shape when what you need is a working public one.
You’re so right!! Remember in the early 80’s when they deregulated the Savings and Loan Banks, expanding their authority to make loans and reducing regulatory oversight? What a great idea, that was. Getting rid of those unnecessary regulations really stimulated greedy white collar and political criminals, they stole everything they could until the whole system crashed, and that deregulation ended up costing taxpayers a 160 to 175 billion bailout in today’s dollars.
What a deal, right? What a boon to the economy, what a next level brain you’re working with. You know, every time we hear someone cry about the need to deregulate, it’s either a pirateer looking to steal more money from the taxpayers, or a useful idiot who drank their kool-aid.
I was in Finance when the first part of the outcome of that shit hit in 2008 and subsequent years (and I say “first part” because we’re still living it and it looks a lot like there are still more 3rd and further order consequences of it unfolding for people) and damn, that shit really forced me to realize just how evil and hypocrite neoliberalism and neoliberals really are.
By the way, I absolutely counted as an “useful idiot” up to then.
Ancaps would be so cute, if there weren’t people actually taking them seriously.
I would call myself an Anarchist. You’re the stupid person people think of when they hear the word, and it’s sad. Government regulation is absolutely required to protect people from losing power. Power structures are generally bad, which is why we need government to prevent them from forming in the background. When this doesn’t happen then people lose power because their options are removed so others can profit off of them easier.
I think that’s a poor take. What governments? There’s a million things that are poorly regulated because of corporate interests in any country
Depends where you are. If youre of the 90% of US americans here in Lemmy, you regulate too less and too reactionary.
Let’s just say my home country is transitioning away from authoritarian and into dictatorship.
You won’t win this one here. Lemmy is disappointingly facebook-like in terms of their seemingly endless desire to be told what to do every step of their lives.
I realise the numbers are sort of made up, but in general I fully agree. I do sometimes think that politicians regulate for the sake of it, as if justifying their existence.
I would be surprised if that was actually the case. most of the visitors are here because they got fed up with reddit’s decisions.
What makes you think that way?
I think there are three groups. There’s the tankies that got deplatformed and created Lemmy to have a platform with no corporate owner. There’s the reddit refugees who wanted to get away from corporate controlled social media. Finally, there’s assholes who got deplatformed because they’re assholes. They aren’t philosophically in favor of the freedom of the fediverse, just that it gives them a means to keep being bad people that no one else allows.
Here’s the issue. Lemmy users are very against people losing control of their lives in general, contrary to what you imply. Most people here are against people losing control. The issue is, it’s not only the government that can do this. Corporations, businesses, and other entities can take it away too. We need the government to regulate these things to protect people. I don’t care to protect businesses. People should be free to do damn near anything they want as long as it doesn’t hurt others. A company/their employer should not be able to prevent them from doing what they want.
You don’t want freedom. You want another kind of control over you.
I find it eloquently said that oppressors can be public and private. People seem keen to trade public for private oppression. Humanity deserves less oppression of all forms.