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      Nothing says liberty like the Republican party, where you can’t be yourself, love who you love or have control over your own body.

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          I believe that’s a so called neo-liberalism, mostly synonymous with “laissez-fare” approaching to economy. While classical liberalism seeks for personal freedoms, neo-liberalism seeks for freedoms of fake, legal persons.

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            The book I linked is an academic work that details how the major liberal philosophers dealt with the contradiction between freedom of the bourgeoisie and freedom of the exploited classes. It’s not a long read, and does the important work of contextualizing their philosophies.

            Liberal education has a tendency to present liberalism as if someone just got the idea for everyone to be equal and free, and then the people democratically embraced capitalism because that’s the most freedom and equal system, and history ended.

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              Guess what I was trying to say is that that changes over time - and not in a good way. But maybe if you read the book, you can tell us more :)

              Edit: looks like the author posits it has “always” been shit in mostly “liberties for me but bot thee” ways.

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                I understood what you’re saying, and I’m telling you it’s historically inaccurate, I just gave you a book explaining how your classical liberals practiced and argued about slavery and other “freedoms” of the bourgeoisie.

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        I had the same reaction. Dude looks terrible. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person

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    Even better was the r/photoshopbattles version of them dancing:

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    Elon: “I have a dad now!”

    Trump: “Somebody call security on this freak!”

    Edit: Maybe Trump is downplaying his weirdness by using Elon as a sideshow freak.

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    Trump: “Jump!”
    Musk: “How high?”
    Trump: “Get as high as you can!”
    Musk: “I am already as high as I can, I wanted to know how high I should jump!”

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      Sadly, I think it’s Musk doing the commanding. Knowing as much as I do about Musk’s philosophy, that’s not a good thing. If Trump wasn’t fascist enough, Musk certainly isn’t going to help.

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        I have no doubt they are empowering each other in a sick feedback loop.

        I had a friend that was always into guns but was normal about it. Then he started hanging out with this other gun guy. Within a couple years they were both psycho gun nuts. He started sleeping with a loaded the gun under his pillow. Even though he had a five year old son. To quote “He isn’t strong enough to cycle the slide so it’s ok …”

        I noped out of the friendship after that.

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            Did he forget that kids will go out of their way to touch it. I remember when I was a little shit, I did a lot of things I wasnt supposed to do. I only got caught for the worst ones.

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              Shit, I only got caught on the lamest shit I did lol. If my parents knew 20% of the shit I did…

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                  I’ve cause numerous fires. Never a dumpster though. Back in the day, when my uncle was in HS he accidentally caught his hs library on fire after breaking in to smoke pot and return a book. So he’s got me beat by quite a lot. But my mother was a neglectful narcissist, so I became a master of illusion.

                  Edit: honestly, most of the times I fucked up was when I was trying to be helpful. Parents had a wall they started to paint and let go for 2 weeks, they went out one night when I was like 13. So I finished it as a surprise while they were out. Got paint all over the carpet. Bonehead shit but otherwise innocent. Other than the porn, that’s all I was ever caught with. I’ve ran from the cops too many times to count from ~14-24. Never anything real bad that harmed anyone, just general mischief.

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          Sleeping with a loaded gun under the pillow. If somebody wants to kill you, and is in your bedroom while you’re sleeping, then you’re going to wake up to a bullet going through your brain, before you go back to sleep permanently. A gun under the pillow doesn’t even make sense in the gun nuts paranoid delusions.

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    Elon Musk is what happens when that middle school kid that says shit like “How fortuitous” gets money.

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    is that old lesbian growing a beard?

    who the fuck is that?

    edit: just saw where I am. Jesus, he’s really let himself go…

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      When I first saw the photo that’s exactly what I thought, I was looking on the edges of the photo for secret service agents running to tackle him

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        I mean the technical hurdles aren’t insurmountable. But we lack the political will power to put resources needed into it.

        It would take 60s moon landing level of commitment for 10-15 years to do any sooner.

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            I wasn’t commenting on whether we “should” go, only that I felt we had the resources/ability to go…

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          It’s technically feasible in the bare minimum “Got there” sense. Bringing someone and getting them back. But we learned a lot by the moon exploration, and that is that we aren’t ready for colonization. Living there, for a long time, let alone indefinitely, that is where the million details are still unresolved. I think that’s the problem that is worth tackling. We already know we can live in space for a long time as long as there are continuous shipments of resources from Earth. We could just flood the logistics problem with money and get to mars next year if we wanted to. Other than the psychologically horrifyingly long distances involved, of course.

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            I’ll say that Andy Weir got most of it right on how to do manned missions to Mars.

            You build a huge space station, and then use that as the ship that goes to and from Mars.

            Then the actual mission on the surface lasting a month or three before the astronauts pack up and head home.

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        Hear me out: They’re planning to lose.

        Promise ridiculous prosperity will happen when they win.

        Lose.

        No matter how successful the winner might eventually be, they can always point to the ridiculous prosperity that never happened, letting them rob their base of even enjoying the basic joy of any progress, keeping them mad, hateful, and controlled.

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          That actually happened in Hungary with Fidesz, in 2006. They even organized the riots that happened in the autumn.

          Of course the MSZP-SZDSZ government had a lot of issues, like planning to privatize the health care, but was sabotaged by Fidesz, a lot. Fidesz even helped the far-right as long as they didn’t deny the Holocaust too much (which is still technically a felony in Hungary, except no longer prosecuted to my knowledge), and pushed the “free speech for all, except for those damn gays and Romani” alignment, while also helping to suppress any news about the anti-communism paranoia of SZDSZ. There was a now infamous political ad of theirs that was pushed during the call for the health-care privatization debates which framed state-owned health care as the last remaining element of communism, except almost no one saw them as most outlets tried to frame the moderate-libertarian party as “communist”, especially the then up and coming kuruc info, a far-right “news” website known for doxxing and holocaust denial. Funnily enough, Fidesz is quietly supporting health-care privatization.