- cross-posted to:
- reddit@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- reddit@lemmy.world
The last major holdouts in the protest against Reddit’s API pricing relented, abandoning the so-called “John Oliver rules” which only allowed posts featuring the TV host. The article describes it as “the official end of the battle,” which seems an overstatement to me, but it’s the certainly the end of the initial phase.
Did Reddit win? Time will tell!
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From my point reddit was already ruined for years and it was becoming even worse. I often had to scroll quite a bit to get past the obnoxious US politics posts, not to mention the endless stream of low effort pictures. Just because something is popular doesn’t make it good.
I often had to scroll quite a bit to get past the obnoxious US politics posts
And the posts that had nothing to do with the US or politics would usually descend into a US centric shit fight anyway.
Any post involving firearms anywhere in the world…flooded with US 2A nut jobs.
etc
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i won i don’t go there anymore. you can win just like me
I’m no big city doctor, but it seems like the people who were strong enough to decide to pack up and leave won.
Exactly, I’d say we won! Until reddit sat on it’s own nuts I hadn’t even heard of Lemmy and now I’m a happy daily user!
Tbh, reddit did win. They’re set to become a highly commercialized social media platform, focused on maximizing engagement through generic content.
They may lose dedicated eccentrics looking for a welcoming place to geek out over shit in their niche community. They’ll also lose users who value long in-depth discussions with complete internet strangers.
But, Reddit doesn’t want our need those people. As long as they have the generic subs (like r/funny, r/pics) and the outrage groups (like r/aita, r/publicfreakout), they’ll keep getting views and sweet sweet ad money. And that’s all Reddit cares about.
Everything you described in the second paragraph is exactly why appending
site:reddit.comis a thing, it’s a source of genuine discussion of products and expertise. That is what gives Reddit its SEO power in search engines and if those communities go, Reddit doesn’t have much to fall back on. Meme level fluff can be replicated anywhere.
I think Reddit likely lost a lot of users who were exclusively Reddit users and didn’t use other social media. That might not amount to that many people total, but it does mean advertisers lose one of the more important demographics Reddit had to offer (since they can target the others more efficiently on other platforms anyway). Hope it still hurts their bottom line.
I quit using it, but I was using a third party app that didn’t have ads. However, I still insist that there is a way for someone to buy accounts, votes, and even entire subreddits directly from Reddit. The way reddit and other websites turn a blind eye to how many fake accounts they have just doesn’t make sense to me.
The way reddit and other websites turn a blind eye to how many fake accounts they have just doesn’t make sense to me.
Traffic numbers by bot accounts boost “user engagement” metrics. If they cracked down on bots the line would go down and the line must go up.
The media has declared reddit the winner multiple times since the protest started.
Fuck the media. There are still 1800+ restricted subreddits.
Who won? Anybody who realized that reddit was commodifying your posts, comments, and contributions and left that shitshack.
If by won you mean cause controversy, drive away some users, and allienate most of those staying than Mission Accomplished. Nothing positive happened for Reddit out of this.
Really? Reddit retained about 98% of its users and gained full control of the app market. I’d call that a success for them. They got exactly what they wanted.
They solidified the establishment of competing services (kbin, Lemmy). Many of us would’ve never even considered using them otherwise. It may not have hurt them a ton in the short term, but they’ve helped set up their competition.
I’d also say the brand reputation has taken a pretty decent hit with their awful handling of the situation. With an upcoming IPO you think they would have handled it carefully but they just seemingly YOLO’d it
The users aren’t the value in reddit, it’s the content creators and savvy community members that respond to questions and leave useful content in their own right. Reddit lost a number of those, and those users are forming the nucleus of their demise.
I tend to agree with the sentiment here that we are all the winners for having discovered and are still using kbin, a platform that most wouldn’t have even known about before Reddit’s shenanigans. Though, I want to point out that total user activity on kbin is down 7,000 people since about 10 days ago…
It seems people are either going back, or are abandoning for Lemmy because of their abundance of mobile apps. Artemis is a decent kbin app, and is almost ready to release for public beta now that the API is complete (just waiting on integration) - though I fear it needs to happen sooner than later if we are to retain the userbase.
I looked at Kbin initially but the lack of any mobile apps sent me straight to Lemmy.
Yeah. that is probably true for many since we all came looking for an alternative due to the loss of our mobile app… Lemmy is a little more mature since it’s been around a lot longer, so it already had an API to build on. @Rideranton has been working on an API and has several pending pull requests to implement one. I truly believe kbin is a better software so I’m hoping that the API sparks more dev interest.
Artemis is now available (Play Store link), but I completely agree that the lack of maturity in apps make Kbin a less compelling offer. It’s still my usualy way to browse from my desktop though.
Creating a viable competitor is never a victory from a business perspective.
This is why your boycotts don’t have an end date…
Reddit was always going to rebound eventually, it’s got a massive userbase and can pull through a fair number of people leaving. I’m pretty happy with the amount of free time I’ve won back since I’ve stopped doom scrolling Reddit.
Pretty keen to see how the fediverse improves over time.
I’ll still likely get answers to questions by including “Reddit” in my search engine searches, but for general community posting consumption I’ve been really pleased with Lemmy. I haven’t missed Reddit and avoiding ads is 100% worth it for me. It feels like using Gimp instead of Photoshop.
I don’t believe it’s really over.
Reddark is still reporting 1839 subs are dark.
At least one 1+ million sub is still private, and at least one 10+ million sub is still restricted.
I’m surprised though - I’ve heard arguments that John Oliver was okay with reddit admins, so why the pushback now to drop it?
Funny thing is that those of who left aren’t there anymore to comment that we did leave… So anyone who is still there is probably looking at the others who stayed and saying “See?! The protest didn’t work because we are still here!”
Reddit has being a dead man walking for a while now. Full of zombie bot reposters and zombie scrollers.
It’s a win for me now that there are good alternatives in lemmy and kbin
I used to spend hours per day on Reddit. Now I visit once or twice a month, read-only. My subscription is canceled and all my posts/comments deleted. My “front page of the Internet” is now here.
Same here.
I’m also using forums again more broadly.
